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UnashamedWeeb: This is a good point. Can this issue be heavily mitigated if you have a dehumidifier and/or place desiccants on your keyboard if you live in a humid environment? For storage, definitely should keep it in a sealed container like its box with a desiccant to preserve its condition.
I think it can be somewhat mitigated, but not that much. The range of humidity that is realistic for a living space might affect copper oxidation rate by a few times.

Also I'm not sure how much of the problem is caused by passive oxidation due to the environment and how much by microscopic arcing when the switch makes contact.
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Darvond: That reminds me, of how tape formats never really caught on in Asia since they were so much more vulnerable to the humid/tropical conditions compared to optical media; which is why LD and MD were huge there.
Hmmm i can still see tape formats being useful, but I'd also see where you'd have a dehumidifier/vacuum which would also rewind the tape, ensuring it's as safe as it probably can be... probably external cases to minimize humidity for longer term storage.

But apparently mold can grow on tape too, along with stretching and other issues making it a finicky format in certain climates.

That or have a central data storage center for streaming and everyone else use something like a chromebook to access/login to a mainframe. Hmmm... Or some places just aren't suited for computers and media of any type.

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clarry: I think it can be somewhat mitigated, but not that much. The range of humidity that is realistic for a living space might affect copper oxidation rate by a few times.
Specialized solutions, for storage and de-humidification... Though it may not be worth it.
Post edited December 22, 2023 by rtcvb32
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Darvond: That reminds me, of how tape formats never really caught on in Asia since they were so much more vulnerable to the humid/tropical conditions compared to optical media; which is why LD and MD were huge there.
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rtcvb32: Hmmm i can still see tape formats being useful, but I'd also see where you'd have a dehumidifier/vacuum which would also rewind the tape, ensuring it's as safe as it probably can be... probably external cases to minimize humidity for longer term storage.

But apparently mold can grow on tape too, along with stretching and other issues making it a finicky format in certain climates.

That or have a central data storage center for streaming and everyone else use something like a chromebook to access/login to a mainframe. Hmmm... Or some places just aren't suited for computers and media of any type.

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clarry: I think it can be somewhat mitigated, but not that much. The range of humidity that is realistic for a living space might affect copper oxidation rate by a few times.
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rtcvb32: Specialized solutions, for storage and de-humidification... Though it may not be worth it.
Had an argument about the logical pull of water from humidity, using dehumidifiers. The guy arguing with me did not believe I was pulling a gallon of water in 1 day. The machine was in a basement in summer time. The argument was about adding them to a game as a water source. It was funny he thought I was trolling, then it reminded me to go and empty the machine and it was actually over 1 gallon lol

So in some places. Tape and other items can be a nightmare to keep dry.


edit: some mental block....keep forgetting the word NOT....
Post edited December 22, 2023 by Shmacky-McNuts
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Shmacky-McNuts: Had an argument about the logical pull of water from humidity, using dehumidifiers. The guy arguing with me did not believe I was pulling a gallon of water in 1 day. The machine was in a basement in summer time. The argument was about adding them to a game as a water source. It was funny he thought I was trolling, then it reminded me to go and empty the machine and it was actually over 1 gallon lol

So in some places. Tape and other items can be a nightmare to keep dry.
Mhmmm... I was thinking more an air compressor and a tank, the air you output would be probably 10x drier than the air you drew in; As the compressed air inside will condense the water more and pool at the bottom of the tank; Said air after drawing from say a box able to handle a bit of a vacuum you feed the air back in, repeat probably twice to make it fairly dry. Then empty the air compressor, which has a valve on the bottom where the water would pool up at.

Other dehumidifiers may work by making a portion of pipe cold which condenses water easier.

But yeah, if the tapes are already moist that would be a lot harder and more a pain to get/keep dry. That's why i was thinking there'd be an air-tight outer shell you'd put them in; Or have a dry room just for storage/playback of your tapes, maybe something like a juke box...

Either way, it would be a pain.
I've just inserted my new (and cheap) keyboard and every key works.
Solution to honglath's post No 5, about power surges, and +1 to every other person. Thank you all, for your answers and have a Happy and Healthy New Year!
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CarChris: I've just inserted my new (and cheap) keyboard and every key works.
Solution to honglath's post No 5, about power surges, and +1 to every other person. Thank you all, for your answers and have a Happy and Healthy New Year!
it seems the only thing left now is to buy a contact surge protector that serves as a buffer between pc and power surges
like don't tell me you have your pc connected to the power net bare-boned???
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Zimerius: it seems the only thing left now is to buy a contact surge protector that serves as a buffer between pc and power surges
like don't tell me you have your pc connected to the power net bare-boned???
Ehm, yes, I have it connected straight to the electricity. :(