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I like the idea.

And I like their sense of humor:

FAQ: "Can’t I just buy a Raspberry Pi, an enclosure, gamepad, keyboard, and mouse, 3D print a faceplate, install Armbian, buy 30+ games, build the source for ARM or install/configure in DOSBox for each and every game, create a menu system with game art, and tell everyone about it at parties?"

Answer: "No."
Eh... I could see the appeal of an Apple-Mini, C64-mini, ect, but a generic PC-mini? Strikes me as a lot more of a novelty than the console minis. I suppose there might be someone, somewhere out there that gamed in the 80s and 90s that doesn't want to emulate and doesn't have or can't put together a legacy system for whatever reason. I guess?

>"PC Classic"
>"Gamepad"

... gtfo
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Gonchi: Eh... I could see the appeal of an Apple-Mini, C64-mini, ect, but a generic PC-mini? Strikes me as a lot more of a novelty than the console minis. I suppose there might be someone, somewhere out there that gamed in the 80s and 90s that doesn't want to emulate and doesn't have or can't put together a legacy system for whatever reason. I guess?

>"PC Classic"
>"Gamepad"

... gtfo
I really think anyone too dim to figure out DOSbox is probably outside the intended audience for this device, which in essence, eliminates any potential reason for this to exist; it doesn't even make a good conversation piece since the design isn't based on any famous PC design. (Of which there were several.)
I just love owning more plastic for the purpose of playing old games that could actually just be released digitally and probably already have.

But let's be honest, the real purpose of these mini consoles is to make YouTube unboxings and put them on that big gaming shelf behind you on display to show others that you are a REAL fan, not a fake one. Be sure to keep the cardboard box so it takes up more of your shelf and make it more visible to your Twitch viewers ;)

EDIT: This dude's playing Doom with a Xbox 360 controller. I am not saying I am a REAL fan, but that's a little suspect :P
Post edited November 13, 2018 by Karterii1993
If this product's gimmick was that it was an actual DOS PC clone complete with BIOS, soundblaster support, and speed throttle of some sort, I'd buy it in a second.

The housing reminds me a bit of the pcjr. What an odd choice.
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Gonchi: Eh... I could see the appeal of an Apple-Mini, C64-mini, ect, but a generic PC-mini? Strikes me as a lot more of a novelty than the console minis. I suppose there might be someone, somewhere out there that gamed in the 80s and 90s that doesn't want to emulate and doesn't have or can't put together a legacy system for whatever reason. I guess?

>"PC Classic"
>"Gamepad"

... gtfo
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Darvond: I really think anyone too dim to figure out DOSbox is probably outside the intended audience for this device, which in essence, eliminates any potential reason for this to exist; it doesn't even make a good conversation piece since the design isn't based on any famous PC design. (Of which there were several.)
There are probably some people out there that are so dumb they think "PC" was some kinda gaming console released in the 90's.
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Crosmando: There are probably some people out there that are so dumb they think "PC" was some kinda gaming console released in the 90's.
Well, technically there's the PC98 & PC88, and the PC Engine.
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CharlesGrey: Legal shmegal. The target audience, including myself, has likely already purchased most of these classic games multiple times, across various platforms and versions.
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hmcpretender: Not so sure about that. There are probably a lot of people who sold their old console games at some point and are now regretting it. As mentioned it's cool looking, convenient, legal. So if you have the money, why bother with setting up emulators and downloading roms?
So you have more than 10 games, and can choose games you actually like?
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Karterii1993: I just love owning more plastic for the purpose of playing old games that could actually just be released digitally and probably already have.

But let's be honest, the real purpose of these mini consoles is to make YouTube unboxings and put them on that big gaming shelf behind you on display to show others that you are a REAL fan, not a fake one. Be sure to keep the cardboard box so it takes up more of your shelf and make it more visible to your Twitch viewers ;)

EDIT: This dude's playing Doom with a Xbox 360 controller. I am not saying I am a REAL fan, but that's a little suspect :P
Eh, not the case. Lots of people i know who get these things just like to have them 'cause they're cool. It's kind of like the plastic mini-arcades that walmart is selling right now. Don't get me wrong, it's still affluenza, but most of these buyers aren't streamers.
Post edited November 15, 2018 by kohlrak
I can see this appealing to a bunch of people. Parents who played these games growing up and now want their kids to experience them without said kids taking up all the time on the family PC (or having their own proper PC in the bedroom with the costs and issues that may entail).

Those who want this so they can play all these old games without needing to have games on the "work" or "office" PC (the one used for documents and spreadsheets and internet things rather than gaming). Those who want this because they no longer have a PC that they can legally acquire and play these games on (e.g. all they have are things like phones or tablets or Chromebooks). And of course those who happen to like the nostalgia factor that comes with something that looks like an old-school PC.

They have indicated that there will be 100% mouse and keyboard support on this thing so those who say "PC gaming with controllers is sacrilege" dont need to worry)
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jonwil: Parents who played these games growing up and now want their kids to experience them
Or pathetic old dorks like me who just can't escape the lure of their childhood. :P

I still play with Legos! I watch catoons! BITE ME! :P
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Mr.Mumbles: I really don't get the point of this.
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CharlesGrey: You could say that about all of these plastic junk "retro consoles", yet they seem to be very popular. I don't really get it, either. I guess it's mostly nostalgia? Or convenience? I mean, not everyone has experience with emulators etc.
I'm guessing a lot of those are presents. Personally, I don't buy them because it's hard to get my hands on one and then if I do, I'd have a bunch of consoles taking up space. Instead, I bought myself a retropie set up and the appropriate controllers.

The one retro console I do have is that Atari flashback from years ago and it was a present.

Given that in some of these cases the number of consoles is a small fraction of the number that people want to buy, I think it's safe to say that there's plenty of people who have a need for these devices, but don't have the games.
I think if this "PC Classic" is a success and reaches some sort of vaguely mainstream market, it will be a reasonable gift choice for gift givers who dont know much about computers but know the people they are buying for used to have these old computers. i.e. "xyz used to have one of those old computers back in the day, this mini retro thing looks like something he might enjoy" (without necessarily knowing that they already have the ability to play all these old games on their modern system)

As for the retro consoles, if the rumored N64 classic does come out I might be interested because then I can finally play the likes of Super Mario 64 the way they are meant to be played (ever tried throwing Bowser off the ledge using arrow keys to simulate the N64 analog stick? Not a fun experience). Then again, maybe I should just buy a controller of some sort instead...
Post edited November 29, 2018 by jonwil
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jonwil: I think if this "PC Classic" is a success and reaches some sort of vaguely mainstream market, it will be a reasonable gift choice for gift givers who dont know much about computers but know the people they are buying for used to have these old computers. i.e. "xyz used to have one of those old computers back in the day, this mini retro thing looks like something he might enjoy" (without necessarily knowing that they already have the ability to play all these old games on their modern system)

As for the retro consoles, if the rumored N64 classic does come out I might be interested because then I can finally play the likes of Super Mario 64 the way they are meant to be played (ever tried throwing Bowser off the ledge using arrow keys to simulate the N64 analog stick? Not a fun experience). Then again, maybe I should just buy a controller of some sort instead...
Why don't you just get a proper controller? There are both clone controllers and USB adapters.

Ultimately, there's going to be some compromise regardless of how precisely you play those games if you're not doing it on an original system hooked up to a CRT. Personally, I've found dumping my own carts onto a Retropie has been quite good for other things. If I really need more horse power, my computer works pretty well.