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Themken: I have seen keyboards that lack the Function keys.
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HunchBluntley: Those are called "shitty keyboards". =P
Agreed.
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Themken: Agreed.
What about ones that have a few extra?
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HunchBluntley: F5 on the keyboard works in ANY browser. ;)
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Themken: I have seen keyboards that lack the Function keys.
Ctrl + r works as well :)
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gixgox: Okay, I understand that you can't change much: but in the context menu is also "Reload".
Or is that only on my modified browser?
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HunchBluntley: F5 on the keyboard works in ANY browser. ;)
Not on Lynx (I just tried it and it seemed only to advance the text one step).
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HunchBluntley: F5 on the keyboard works in ANY browser. ;)
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dtgreene: Not on Lynx (I just tried it and it seemed only to advance the text one step).
Fine: "any popular browser (and many less popular ones)." But I was going for brevity.
So I just did a bunch of experiments comparing Firefox Quantum to Vivaldi (Chromium). Firefox is in fact better except for its incredibly annoying rendering. I attached an image with a direct comparison. Notice the beautiful crisp text in V(Ch) vs the hideous, bloated text in FfQ.

Also, notice the GOG logo. In V(Ch) it is very sharp, but FfQ blurs the edges of the inner transparency for some reason.

If anyone knows know to fix that I will be very grateful, because other than this crap, which is annoying as a user (and also INCREDIBLY annoying as a developer) I am actually very happy with what FfQ brings to the table.
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Darvond: So here's the thing. Firefox was basically the first browser that I left the murky Internet Explorer swamp from. It was a fine time and my introduction to ad blocking.

Off and on, I'd also try out Opera and such. (Whose legacy I honor by trying Vivaldi on occasion.)

Then Firefox 4 happened. Firefox 4, for those who don't remember, was the first in a series of misguided UX redesigns, and was the time they introduced a major bug that made clearing the browser history an impossible task.

At that point, I switched to the then new Chrome browser. It was so new, that Adblock plus was but a cosmetic addon, only hiding the ads.

I've been with Chrome ever since. Through at least 3 operating systems. Firefox on Linux only existed to install Chrome and then be banished. Edge existed to install Chrome and collect dust. For the longest time it appeared that even the ancient Seamonkey project was handled more competently that Firefox for a time!

Then, after a bizarre choice to redesign their logo, it would seem Mozilla had finally pulled it's head from it's jacksie.

I've been curious, but I wanted some user hand accounts rather than tech articles on the overall look, feel, improvements, and potential advantages, before I sudo dnf install firefox.
Personally, I find Fx Quantum to be significantly better than Chrome. Chrome has never been particularly good. the architecture has had a lot less thought put into it than Fx.

That being said, Fx has had some serious problems over the years and because the approach made in designing it is more thoughtful, it's taken a lot longer to get multi-process support.

If you haven't been using Fx for years, then the lack of support for some legacy addons is probably not something you'll notice. The interface itself is rather zippy and you have the ability to restrict cookies from being served to other domains, which means that when you're being rtracked by advertisers, they see one set of cookies per domain, so rather than 1 profile for you, they have one for each site you visit.

I'd personally, recommend giving it a try, the addons are still much better than what Chrome has available and it now is the second browser with U2F support, which should mean that sites will start allowing you to use Fx for 2 factor authentication via USB token.
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HunchBluntley: Yay, the NoScript extension was just auto-updated to the Quantum-compatible WE version sometime this evening (after the main dev said that it'd "definitely" be done by last weekend). Much better late than never. :)
You'd probably be better off with umatrix than NoScript. I used to use NoScript, but it's a serious pain in the ass because of the way it's designed. umatrix does a much better job of controlling what scripts run on a given site.
Post edited November 25, 2017 by hedwards
Ever since Firefox Quantum arrived I've been unable to view live streaming content on YouTube (I've been using Explorer for it instead whilst hoping that Mozilla would quickly resolve the problem).

On one of the channels I frequent the moderators recommend the following solution:
PSA To fix FireFox bug, enter about:config (no space) in FireFox address bar, search for media.webm.enabled. Right click on True & toggle to false.
So I've just tried it and it did the trick. However, I do wonder why Mozilla still haven't done anything about it themselves as lots of viewers seem to have this problem and the solution is rather simple. That is, if it really is a proper solution (feel free to enlighten me almighty computer nerds!).

All a quick Google search a week ago revealed was this thread and it basically left me none the wiser regarding whether or not I should enable VP9 (especially due to some of the conflicting information – see the attachment).
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Post edited November 28, 2017 by Lemon_Curry
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Lemon_Curry: Ever since Firefox Quantum arrived I've been unable to view live streaming content on YouTube (I've been using Explorer for it instead whilst hoping that Mozilla would quickly resolve the problem).
That would be why I was unable to watch the MST3K Turkey Day Marathon on YouTube. (I mean, it was on Twitch, too, but Twitch kinda sucks -- I was having problems with audiovisual desynchronization). It didn't even occur to me that Quantum could be the reason, especially with YouTube's super-helpful error messages.
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HunchBluntley: That would be why I was unable to watch the MST3K Turkey Day Marathon on YouTube. (I mean, it was on Twitch, too, but Twitch kinda sucks -- I was having problems with audiovisual desynchronization). It didn't even occur to me that Quantum could be the reason, especially with YouTube's super-helpful error messages.
That's too bad, but I take it you were able to watch it afterwards, right?
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HunchBluntley: That would be why I was unable to watch the MST3K Turkey Day Marathon on YouTube. (I mean, it was on Twitch, too, but Twitch kinda sucks -- I was having problems with audiovisual desynchronization). It didn't even occur to me that Quantum could be the reason, especially with YouTube's super-helpful error messages.
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Lemon_Curry: That's too bad, but I take it you were able to watch it afterwards, right?
I haven't checked to see if the stream was archived on either platform, but I doubt it. (Well, someone on YouTube might've posted an unofficial recording of the livestream.) Honestly, it's the idea of watching it live on Thanksgiving that was the draw; most of the individual episodes I could probably find in various places, and the official MST3K YouTube channel probably has highlights of the host segments from between episodes.
"TL;DR" answer: No, but...meh.
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HunchBluntley: Honestly, it's the idea of watching it live on Thanksgiving that was the draw [...]
I understand. Well, in that case it absolutely sucks møøse balls, no offence.
Post edited November 30, 2017 by Lemon_Curry