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MarkoH01: Germany does not ban games (in most cases) that's what I wanted to say. This is still not China after all.
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fronzelneekburm: Ehhh... let's not go there. The selection is considerably larger on the gog's Chinese storefront than the German storefront and I don't buy into the rather flawed logic of "Germany doesn't ban games, except when it does" either.
That's GOGs problem since they don't provide age verification - it has NOTHING to do with Germany that "banned" the games. It would not be any problem at all to buy all those games here in Germany without VPN or whatever. The reason that this is not possible sits in Poland and not in Germany. Not saying that I like the way how those youth protection system is working (I don't and I have expressed my dislike about this a few times) - but there is a big difference between banning a game and putting it on a list of games that (according to thoose institutions) do have potential of harming the youth. If you don't see it this way, that's up to you but you won't find any German law that forbids you to buy a certain game.
Post edited July 12, 2021 by MarkoH01

looks like gog just follows the german laws
i dont get how gog is any fault in this
maybe vote for freedom next time
or just come to Hungary , it isnt banned to buy these games here :)
HOW, well i didn t know the definitive edition is on index in Germany...
don t see how it is worse than GTA or Saints Row or even CP77 for that matter

as for GoG being at fault, that was for "ADULT" games like Subverse
a simple "Age Question 1 click" would solve this.

The game is still on the BPJM's index. GOG apparently didn't realize this at first, and so the game was available to Germans for a short time.
ye thats explains it then... well guess one has to search for alternatrives then
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fronzelneekburm: Ehhh... let's not go there. The selection is considerably larger on the gog's Chinese storefront than the German storefront and I don't buy into the rather flawed logic of "Germany doesn't ban games, except when it does" either.
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MarkoH01: That's GOGs problem since they don't provide age verification - it has NOTHING to do with Germany that "banned" the games. It would not be any problem at all to buy all those games here in Germany without VPN or whatever. The reason that this is not possible sits in Poland and not in Germany.
You're right, but to be fair to GoG, they probably don't want to suffer the user backlash that a German-law compliant age verification system would cause (I know you could restrict it to IP addresses physically located in Germany, but it's still likely to cause some upset with the way this community reacts). Plus, additional sales revenue is unlikely to offset the cost of running the system - especially as most German customers are likely to work around the current restrictions.
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MarkoH01: That's GOGs problem since they don't provide age verification - it has NOTHING to do with Germany that "banned" the games. It would not be any problem at all to buy all those games here in Germany without VPN or whatever. The reason that this is not possible sits in Poland and not in Germany.
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pds41: You're right, but to be fair to GoG, they probably don't want to suffer the user backlash that a German-law compliant age verification system would cause (I know you could restrict it to IP addresses physically located in Germany, but it's still likely to cause some upset with the way this community reacts). Plus, additional sales revenue is unlikely to offset the cost of running the system - especially as most German customers are likely to work around the current restrictions.
I don't actually blame GOG - I understand them. It's simply too much costs and effort and most digital stores not located in Germany don't have such an age verification program. When I said the "problem" sits in Poland I was more focusing in how the German laws are working and not that GOG made a stupid decision.
Heh. Probably the most interesting thing during my school trip to Bonn - showing my age, as that was before the capitol was re-relocated back to Berlin - in my 10th grade was visiting the BPJM offices and them showing us an example reel of all the games they blacklisted back then. The violence in mid-'90s video games is positively quaint in comparison what can be found in games today - even at the time I found pretty much all of it comically unrealistic.
Post edited July 13, 2021 by Mr.Mumbles
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fronzelneekburm: So while strictly speaking it isn't banned, the way the non-ban is implemented constitutes a de facto ban.
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MarkoH01: But as you said - that's Steams and Square Enix' decision and therefore at least this one can't be blamed on decisions made by German institutions like the BPjM. Germany does not ban games (in most cases) that's what I wanted to say. This is still not China after all.
Sleeping Dogs Definitive Edition is available for purchase on GOG in China.
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laser_eyes: Sleeping Dogs Definitive Edition is available for purchase on GOG in China.
Huh. That's... interesting. Doesn't China have a thing against showing gore and people dying in video games? Last I checked, there's an awful lot of that happening in Sleeping Dogs, especially when it comes to some of the environmental finishers.
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laser_eyes: Sleeping Dogs Definitive Edition is available for purchase on GOG in China.
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Mr.Mumbles: Huh. That's... interesting. Doesn't China have a thing against showing gore and people dying in video games? Last I checked, there's an awful lot of that happening in Sleeping Dogs, especially when it comes to some of the environmental finishers.
The Chinese government rarely has a problem with gore or death in games, but of course there's a limit. Their big problem is political statements or anything that might be construed as negatively portraying China. If you do that you will definitely run into trouble.

Virtually all games on GOG and Steam are available in China. Steam is in fact extrememly popular here. I'm trying to educate people about GOG and I think I have substantially increased GOG's business in China. They really ought to pay me for it. The only times I have found games not available in China is usually because of distribution rights. I noticed that Biped which was made by a Chinese company is not available on GOG in China, but curiously is available on Steam.
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pkk234: If it goes for the super low sale price again, I can gift you it. I feel the region lock/regional pricing pain.
I think it was like 3 bucks.
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Orkhepaj: thx
Is it not available in Hungary either?
This game is censored in Germany?!?

Now I am interested to play it! It must be good because Germany seems to censor everything good.
Post edited July 13, 2021 by timppu
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timppu: This game is censored in Germany?!?

Now I am interested to play it! It must be good because Germany seems to censor everything good.
Good idea. But BEWARE! There are exceptions to the rule. In the case of Soldier of Fortune Payback (which is legit banned for realz in Germany), the game in question is so irredeemably awful that the government confiscating and destroying all copies might have done the public a great service.
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MarkoH01: But as you said - that's Steams and Square Enix' decision and therefore at least this one can't be blamed on decisions made by German institutions like the BPjM. Germany does not ban games (in most cases) that's what I wanted to say. This is still not China after all.
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laser_eyes: Sleeping Dogs Definitive Edition is available for purchase on GOG in China.
Again, it is basically GOGs decision that it is not available on GOG in Germany - it has nothing to do with German laws that have banned the game. Germany only restricts certain games based on age and not for everyone. That's what I wanted to say. Germany does not ban things completely - China does.
Post edited July 13, 2021 by MarkoH01
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Orkhepaj: thx
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pkk234: Is it not available in Hungary either?
nah , nearly nothing is banned here
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fronzelneekburm: which is legit banned for realz in Germany
Not completely true. It isn't allowed to be sold in Germany but you are still allowed to import it from elsewhere as long as you only use it for yourself.

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pkk234: Is it not available in Hungary either?
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Orkhepaj: nah , nearly nothing is banned here
This might be true for games but surely not for everthing ;)
Post edited July 13, 2021 by MarkoH01
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fronzelneekburm: which is legit banned for realz in Germany
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MarkoH01: Not completely true. It isn't allowed to be sold in Germany but you are still allowed to import it from elsewhere as long as you only use it for yourself.
As far as I know, its allowed for adults to buy this game.

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Post edited July 13, 2021 by Maxvorstadt