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Truth007: A port would mean the devs gotta do the work which I dont see happening unless they choose to like capcom did with Resident Evil 0. I wouldnt want an emulation only if they ported it properly.
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tfishell: I wouldn't see Konami doing the port, but if GOG got access to the necessary files (source code and whatever else) from Konami, I wonder if it'd be financially worthwhile for GOG themselves to do a port because Silent Hill 1 is so famous. Maybe not. *shrug*
That has zero chance of happening, gog aren't developers. I think it's possible that they might release some collection of some sort or remaster/hd edition like some other companies do. There is a rumor that PS5 is getting a Silent Hill reboot and who knows maybe Konami decides it would be a good time to also bring older games to multiple platforms.
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tfishell: I'm not expecting SH1 of course, but I wonder if there's a financially worthwhile way GOG could bring it since it is such a popular game - emulation or (if the source code is even still around) a straight-up port (GOG's first port :P). I assume a straight-up port is far more expensive than emulation, but I don't know if GOG would have to pay Sony or get their legal go-ahead (presumably extremely unlikely to happen).
GOG has not created any port. Without any experience in port-making, there is no reason for Konami to entrust them with the source code.

As for emulation, GOG's specific removal of Silent Hill 1 from the Silent Hill series wishlist tells me all I need to know.
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Grargar: GOG's specific removal of Silent Hill 1 from the Silent Hill series wishlist
Ahhhhhh, I didn't realize 1 was ever a part of that wish. Good catch!
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tfishell: I'm not expecting SH1 of course, but I wonder if there's a financially worthwhile way GOG could bring it since it is such a popular game - emulation or (if the source code is even still around) a straight-up port (GOG's first port :P). I assume a straight-up port is far more expensive than emulation, but I don't know if GOG would have to pay Sony or get their legal go-ahead (presumably extremely unlikely to happen).
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Grargar: GOG has not created any port. Without any experience in port-making, there is no reason for Konami to entrust them with the source code.

As for emulation, GOG's specific removal of Silent Hill 1 from the Silent Hill series wishlist tells me all I need to know.
yep, like I said it has to be a situation where konami themselves decide to port the game to pc and modern consoles like Capcom did with Resident Evil 0. RE0 was not on PC back then like Silent Hill 1 but since Capcom did a remaster on consoles they also proceeded to release it on PC.
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Grargar: GOG's specific removal of Silent Hill 1 from the Silent Hill series wishlist
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tfishell: Ahhhhhh, I didn't realize 1 was ever a part of that wish. Good catch!
That wishlist has never had the 1 in the title, so unfortunately it cannot be considered a proof.
More like fortunately, because it means there's still hope.

But if Konami is serious about this path of redemption, and the rumor of a Metal Gear Solid 1 remake suggests they are, then I strongly hope the same for Silent Hill 1.
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GeraltOfRivia_PL: Gog has a lot of exclusives but they are mostly old.

It's like a dumping spot for lots of publishers. They can't be bothered to maintain their old titles so they release them on GOG

"Here, take this and try not to bother us about it.
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StingingVelvet: What a cynical way to look at it. GOG's original purpose was selling old games working better on modern systems and with no DRM so you could back them up forever. Perfect for not only today, but future retro PCs we will surely need as Windows and modern computing changes. This kind of stuff is exactly what GOG was made for, whether the publishers care about it or not. One could even say the purpose of GOG originally was to save old games from indifferent publishers.
Yes yes i perhaps should have worded it more diplomatically.

But look at Ubisoft, for instance. They own tons of great IP's and release so many games it's hard to keep track of. Naturally, we gamers who like to play older games, constitute AT MOST 10% of gamers. Your average Joe wants to limit himself to all the new AAA titles, he doesn't care about games from 14 years ago. He probably doesn't even know Assassin's Creed used to not be an RPG.

So naturally Ubisoft will want to focus on making newer titles, but they still see opportunoty for some money in releasing their older titles. GOG is the perfect place for it because they will take care of updating it to mode OS'. Otherwise they would have released it on Uplay (to get a full cut after taxes) or Steam (wider audience)

I think we are both in the right just misunderstanding each other



Edit you say that was GOG's original purpose, but it doesn't matter. Original purpose and reality are dofferent things.


If you told Gabe Newell in 2004 what Steam would be like in 2020 he would take you for a madman... unless he's a genius that can predict the future

Similarly, GOG may have been used solely for old games but that's the past. Which doesn't mean they have completely abandoned their original purpose
Post edited September 27, 2020 by GeraltOfRivia_PL
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Grargar: GOG has not created any port. Without any experience in port-making, there is no reason for Konami to entrust them with the source code.

As for emulation, GOG's specific removal of Silent Hill 1 from the Silent Hill series wishlist tells me all I need to know.
Afaik 1 hasn't been part of this wishlist entry since at least July 2018.
Source: https://www.gog.com/forum/general/so_whats_the_next_most_wanted_classic_games_to_be_on_gog/post260
Post edited September 27, 2020 by Prah
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CymTyr: My sources say if the MG/MGS games sell well and the Konami Collection they released on here sells well, more is coming including (eventually) Silent Hill.

It's a matter of mathematics, and the fact they're here at all is a testament to someone at Konami wanting to right the ship. They're definitely keeping track of trends and metrics. If you're on the fence about today's releases and want to see more of Konami's catalogue here, pick them up. This is just the beginning, assuming we as a community can show them we still love them despite the Kojima debacle.

Speaking of, a neutral party is trying to patch things up with Kojima and Konami. Apparently, some of the suits behind his departure are no longer with the company, and he is supposedly receptive to working with them on Silent Hills if they are willing to work with him and not do what they did on MGS5.

So not only is it possible we see a *lot* more of Konami on here, it's also in the rumor mill that some of the people who are currently running things are trying to save their fractured gaming identity by any means necessary. It's likely the sales on today's releases dictate whether we get more exclusives here or not.

Just some food for thought,
-Cym
That all sounds amazing, here's hoping for great sales and that everyone who can feasibly buy these games does so. Silent Hill franchise here would be a major coup. In fact any time GOG can get a previously missing franchise from a big developer/publisher here, it goes a long way towards increasing the possibility that other missing franchises and developers/publishers can make it here too. One more thing: go Browns!
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Prah: Afaik 1 hasn't been part of this wishlist entry since at least July 2018.
Source: https://www.gog.com/forum/general/so_whats_the_next_most_wanted_classic_games_to_be_on_gog/post260
If I remember correctly, it was around the time that GOG consolidated wishlist entries for game series. If I remember even more correctly, that time period was when Bethesda brought their first games on GOG, in 2015.
Post edited September 27, 2020 by Grargar
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CymTyr: My sources say if the MG/MGS games sell well and the Konami Collection they released on here sells well, more is coming including (eventually) Silent Hill.

It's a matter of mathematics, and the fact they're here at all is a testament to someone at Konami wanting to right the ship. They're definitely keeping track of trends and metrics. If you're on the fence about today's releases and want to see more of Konami's catalogue here, pick them up. This is just the beginning, assuming we as a community can show them we still love them despite the Kojima debacle.

Speaking of, a neutral party is trying to patch things up with Kojima and Konami. Apparently, some of the suits behind his departure are no longer with the company, and he is supposedly receptive to working with them on Silent Hills if they are willing to work with him and not do what they did on MGS5.

So not only is it possible we see a *lot* more of Konami on here, it's also in the rumor mill that some of the people who are currently running things are trying to save their fractured gaming identity by any means necessary. It's likely the sales on today's releases dictate whether we get more exclusives here or not.

Just some food for thought,
-Cym
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rjbuffchix: That all sounds amazing, here's hoping for great sales and that everyone who can feasibly buy these games does so. Silent Hill franchise here would be a major coup. In fact any time GOG can get a previously missing franchise from a big developer/publisher here, it goes a long way towards increasing the possibility that other missing franchises and developers/publishers can make it here too. One more thing: go Browns!
Thanks :) They won today, so I'm happy. Sober, but happy. I gave up the sauce a long time ago, unlike many other Browns fans.

Good points! Let's see what happens. Someone said we might get another release next week, so I hope hope hope it's SH 2/3. I'll pay $9.99 each.
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GeraltOfRivia_PL: So naturally Ubisoft will want to focus on making newer titles, but they still see opportunoty for some money in releasing their older titles. GOG is the perfect place for it because they will take care of updating it to mode OS'. Otherwise they would have released it on Uplay (to get a full cut after taxes) or Steam (wider audience)
Yes but my point is... so what? What's wrong with that?

If you want GOG to be a big seller of new AAA games then you're in the wrong place. Any publisher big enough to pay for Denuvo or have their own client is not going to release them here day one, DRM free. Even removing DRM from the equation, most games with an online component lean heavily on Steamworks or their own client for features. GOG is just never going to be that store, unless they radically change their business model.

Come to GOG for classic games updated for Windows 10 and DRM free, or DRM free indies and AA games. That's what GOG is here for.
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GeraltOfRivia_PL: So naturally Ubisoft will want to focus on making newer titles, but they still see opportunoty for some money in releasing their older titles. GOG is the perfect place for it because they will take care of updating it to mode OS'. Otherwise they would have released it on Uplay (to get a full cut after taxes) or Steam (wider audience)
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StingingVelvet: Yes but my point is... so what? What's wrong with that?

If you want GOG to be a big seller of new AAA games then you're in the wrong place. Any publisher big enough to pay for Denuvo or have their own client is not going to release them here day one, DRM free. Even removing DRM from the equation, most games with an online component lean heavily on Steamworks or their own client for features. GOG is just never going to be that store, unless they radically change their business model.

Come to GOG for classic games updated for Windows 10 and DRM free, or DRM free indies and AA games. That's what GOG is here for.
I would guess when a game with online portions and/or multiplayer components utilized by Steamworks, Origin, or UPLAY - yep, they'd probably have to also port that portion to work with GOG Galaxy.

With more and companies having their own proprietary game-clients and features through there - yeah, I see less of those games hitting GOG.

Or, if say a game w/ MP once say that used UPLAY or Steamworks say hits GOG - yeah, it might not even support the MP and/or online stuff. A game company or GOG would probably have to implement Galaxy online support, for the MP portion.

I do feel a lot of MP-based stuff content - i.e. like COD games' competitive skirmish modes which are MP-based; games like Guild Wars that have bots you can run around with; Quake 3 Arena had bots so you do their skirmish mode offline (since there really is no true-SP campaign here); etc etc - should be made to be re-worked to work offline, once player numbers dwindle. Yeah, it'd probably take tons of work later to do this or should be implemented way ahead of time as a fail-safe to rely on much later - just so this things can still be played by the gamer, after the plug's pulled.

This reminds me - man, I'd love to see an offline and re-worked version of The Secret World before its plug gets pulled (I hope it doesn't); especially b/c of its great writing and storytelling.
Post edited September 28, 2020 by MysterD
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MysterD: This reminds me - man, I'd love to see an offline and re-worked version of The Secret World before its plug gets pulled (I hope it doesn't); especially b/c of its great writing and storytelling.
I'd love to see MMOs turned into offline RPGs when they die, even if they would be bad offline RPGs. History shows that's probably never going to happen though. Even something as story focused as The Old Republic will probably shut down when EA lose the license and then they legally can't release it anymore.
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MysterD: This reminds me - man, I'd love to see an offline and re-worked version of The Secret World before its plug gets pulled (I hope it doesn't); especially b/c of its great writing and storytelling.
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StingingVelvet: I'd love to see MMOs turned into offline RPGs when they die, even if they would be bad offline RPGs. History shows that's probably never going to happen though. Even something as story focused as The Old Republic will probably shut down when EA lose the license and then they legally can't release it anymore.
Same here. I'd love to see TOR and even Tabula Rasa get offline modes.