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Posted April 12, 2015
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Klumpen0815: I don't know why some of the really cool stories from the Silmarillion are not used in games and movies a bit more, is there at least something about Feanor anywhere?
Because they don't have the rights to Silmarillion, and the Tolkien Estate isn't interested in letting anyone have them. Considering how the Hobbit movies turned out, I'm very glad of that.
Posted April 12, 2015

I don't know why some of the really cool stories from the Silmarillion are not used in games and movies a bit more, is there at least something about Feanor anywhere?
IIRC, they're not allowed to. The games are all based on the license originally negotiated for Peter Jackson's films, which only covers LotR (and The Hobbit, I guess), and the Tolkien Estate refuses to license out anything else.
Posted April 12, 2015
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Breja: Because they don't have the rights to Silmarillion, and the Tolkien Estate isn't interested in letting anyone have them.
Considering how the Hobbit movies turned out, I'm very glad of that.
You've got a point there.
Post edited April 12, 2015 by Klumpen0815
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BlackMageJ: and the Tolkien Estate refuses to license out anything else.
I wasn't surprised when I read (in a relatively old article, circa "Hobbit The First") that Christopher Tolkien was pissed by Peter Jackson's work : while I quite enjoyed the LotR movie, there was clearly a lot of evil in the details. Then I watched the Hobbit 'because', and the stench of Hollywood was far more repulsive than the Stench of Mordor.

Shadow of Mordor just deflected my curiosity as I saw it as a 'Super heroes of Middle Earth' mashup.
Post edited April 12, 2015 by Potzato
Posted April 12, 2015
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Cyraxpt: You're not missing much by not playing...
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Pheace: I'd certainly disagree with that. It's worth a playthrough. Don't go in for lore reasons, but for gameplay and world roaming it's pretty fun. The way you affect and take over commanders in the leaders army is pretty good too.

Sure, it's not top 5 of the year imo, but it's certainly not a bad game.
I said it was mediocre, it has good ideas but it's terrible implemented, i borrowed my game to my friend and he quit the game midway because he thought it was too dull, i even said the late game is better and it's what made the game have good reviews but nonetheless he couldn't endure more of the same gameplay that plagues AAA games nowadays (open world, boring quests, climbing towers, etc).
Posted April 12, 2015
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Breja: So, I heard great things about the game. Praise from left and right. But I have to wonder- how is it for a fan of Tolkien like myself? Becasue from what I heard of the story and gameplay it sounds like it pretty much takes a piss all over the books. Like a great game, that really should not be attached to Middle-Earth.
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HijacK: The thing is, the entire Middle-Earth world and Tolkien's fictional works have been greatly expanded upon. Lord of the RIngs is now like Star Wars. A license where ever product, while it stays within the borders of the universe, it still expands upon it. Don't go into the game expecting some amazing story that necessarily fits into the world perfectly. War in the North was pretty much a slap on original story and still good enough if you didn't mind the fact it wasn't a tie in game. The same should go for this one.
There's some key difference between Star Wars and Middle Earth though. Tolkien's original work created a coherent and defined universe, while using great storytelling. Star Wars only really achieved that through its expanded universe. While LOTR's creator is considered the only definitive source by fans, Star Wars fans hope its creator doesn't return to it.
Post edited April 12, 2015 by McDon
Posted April 12, 2015
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HijacK: The thing is, the entire Middle-Earth world and Tolkien's fictional works have been greatly expanded upon. Lord of the RIngs is now like Star Wars. A license where ever product, while it stays within the borders of the universe, it still expands upon it. Don't go into the game expecting some amazing story that necessarily fits into the world perfectly. War in the North was pretty much a slap on original story and still good enough if you didn't mind the fact it wasn't a tie in game. The same should go for this one.
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McDon: There's some key difference between Star Wars and Middle Earth though. Tolkien's original work created a coherent and defined universe, while using great storytelling. Star Wars only really achieved that through its expanded universe. While LOTR's creator is considered the only definitive source by fans, Star Wars fans hope its creator doesn't return to it.
LOTR also had a ton of contradictions, errors by the author himself. This and if one doesn't want the universe to expand, one should not visit extra material. :P
Posted April 12, 2015
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Breja: So what I'm asking is whether Shadow of Mordor is that kind of harmless fan-fiction, or does it totally Micheal Bay Middle-Earth?
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InfraSuperman: This guy seems to think it's more the latter. According to him, it completely butchers all the themes and ideals from the books to turn it into "infantile revenge porn".
nice article, this guy answers all the stuff i thought was going to go wrong with this game, war in the north had similar issue but even that one played it safe compared to this one
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