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Pretty much every game site has at least one bogus NX rumor going around and it's just laughably ridiculous the kind of silliness that some people try to pass off.
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Dralel: Seems pretty shitty if true, Nintendo exclusives are never temporary and go to PC. Nintendo is the last company I'd want to see this multiplatform franchise go to.
BG&E was awful on the PC. It was so clearly designed as a console game that the PC port just seemed pointless. I'm not saying it couldn't be good on the PC, but judging by the quality of the port the first time round we'd not be missing much if the second doesn't make it to the PC. After giving up on the PC version of BG&E back in the day I got it on the GC instead, so a Nintendo console just seems like the natural home for it to me.
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vicklemos: ps: as a Wii U owner myself, I'm kinda not happy with the fact that we won't see Saturn, Dreamcast, Gamecube (wanna bet?) and even more wild n64 games on the Virtual Console. What a bunch of ''el poop'', eh Big N?
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Darvond: On one hand, licencing is hard. On the other hand, have you seen Nintendo's emulation efforts? They can't even get it right for their own games.
Oh, they fixed an oversaturated picture. Not seeing the problem.
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ShadowAngel.207: Why would any developer, let alone publisher, in their right mind make something exclusive for a console nobody wants to buy? The WiiU is a failure and no exclusive title can anymate anybody to buy a console
The rumour doesn't involve the WiiU.
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Randalator: Nintendo can go fuck themselves if they pull that move. With a barbed wire bat. On fire.
Your impotent rage sustains me. Seriously, I find it hilarious that people get angry about the idea that Nintendo might put forward the money to get this game made. It's been in limbo for years.
Post edited March 04, 2016 by SirPrimalform
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SirPrimalform: BG&E was awful on the PC. It was so clearly designed as a console game that the PC port just seemed pointless. I'm not saying it couldn't be good on the PC, but judging by the quality of the port the first time round we'd not be missing much if the second doesn't make it to the PC. After giving up on the PC version of BG&E back in the day I got it on the GC instead, so a Nintendo console just seems like the natural home for it to me.
Oh, they fixed an oversaturated picture. Not seeing the problem.
The rumour doesn't involve the WiiU.
Your impotent rage sustains me. Seriously, I find it hilarious that people get angry about the idea that Nintendo might put forward the money to get this game made. It's been in limbo for years.
Oversaturated? That's what the games looked like when deployed off the original systems. Super Mario Bros was never that dark. I played it as a child, and have a copy I can check this instant. (Protip: The dark pictures are the Nintendo ones, and the gray in paper Mario is supposed to be white.)
Post edited March 04, 2016 by Darvond
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SirPrimalform: Your impotent rage sustains me. Seriously, I find it hilarious that people get angry about the idea that Nintendo might put forward the money to get this game made. It's been in limbo for years.
Oh yes, I'm so happy that Nintendo might fund the game and then essentially sell it for 400 bucks a piece. I'm giddy with joy.
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Wishbone: I tried playing the PC version, but quit in frustration over the lousy port it was.
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Wishbone: it was about BG&E.
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SirPrimalform: BG&E was awful on the PC.
It was so clearly designed as a console game that the PC port just seemed pointless.
Well, I had a blast with this game, never had problems with the controls or the combo moves etc (using mouse+keyboard).
I consider this game as excellent, I never felt the PC version as a "port" (so definitely not lousy or awful, on the contrary).
imo this is easily in top of the greatest games ever made, yes I'm talking about the PC version.
Post edited March 04, 2016 by mobutu
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mobutu: Well, I had a blast with this game, never had problems with the controls or the combo moves etc (using mouse+keyboard).
I consider this game as excellent, I never felt the PC version as a "port" (so definitely not lousy or awful, on the contrary).
imo this is easily in top of the greatest games ever made, yes I'm talking about the PC version.
You are obviously not one of the people (like me) who play first person games with an inverted Y-axis.
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Darvond: Oversaturated? That's what the games looked like when deployed off the original systems. Super Mario Bros was never that dark. I played it as a child, and have a copy I can check this instant. (Protip: The dark pictures are the Nintendo ones, and the gray in paper Mario is supposed to be white.)
The game being discussed there is Paper Mario, not SMB.
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Randalator: Oh yes, I'm so happy that Nintendo might fund the game and then essentially sell it for 400 bucks a piece. I'm giddy with joy.
If they're the only ones willing to fund it then why would you expect them to release it on anything other than their own platform. Also, how would this be any different from it being PS4/Xbone exclusive?
If you're going to factor the cost of the console into the 'price' of an exclusive game then you should do that for all exclusive games. I dunno, maybe you do.
Post edited March 04, 2016 by SirPrimalform
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SirPrimalform: The game being discussed there is Paper Mario, not SMB.
If they're the only ones willing to fund it then why would you expect them to release it on anything other than their own platform. Also, how would this be any different from it being PS4/Xbone exclusive?
If you're going to factor the cost of the console into the 'price' of an exclusive game then you should do that for all exclusive games. I dunno, maybe you do.
There are multiple pages to the thread, going over several games with issues.
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mobutu: Well, I had a blast with this game, never had problems with the controls or the combo moves etc (using mouse+keyboard).
I consider this game as excellent, I never felt the PC version as a "port" (so definitely not lousy or awful, on the contrary).
imo this is easily in top of the greatest games ever made, yes I'm talking about the PC version.
I'm not saying it's not a good game, I'm saying that it played a lot better on the console versions.

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Wishbone: You are obviously not one of the people (like me) who play first person games with an inverted Y-axis.
Oh yeah, I definitely remember having problems with the camera controls vs the flight controls.
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Darvond: There are multiple pages to the thread, going over several games with issues.
I was just addressing the complaint given in the OP.
Post edited March 04, 2016 by SirPrimalform
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rtcvb32: But because of their target audience, NO ONE BOUGHT GAMES. Not really, 99% of the people bought the base Wii games which included wii-sports, and never bought anything else.
You know that someone is working off of solid data when they decide to trot out the '99 percent' horse. =P No disrespect, but if you're going to engage in a serious discussion about gaming business, please kindly leave urban myths and hearsay at the door and do some actual research. It's not hard, considering Nintendo actually reports their figures on a regular basis.

https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/sales/hard_soft/index.html

That link contains Nintendo's LTD hardware and software figures for all their platforms as of the end of last year. If you take the total software sales and divide them by the total hardware sales, you get the average number of games sold per system or what is often called the 'attach rate'. The end result is this:

GC: 9.59
Wii: 8.98
NES: 8.08
SNES: 7.72
N64: 6.83
Wii U: 6.29
DS: 6.15
GBA: 4.63
3DS: 4.57
GB+GBC: 4.22

So, for every Wii system sold, customers purchased roughly 9 games. Admittedly, Nintendo does include bundled games (such as Wii Sports) in those figures. But even if you shave off about 100 million from the total figure to account for that (though that's not a fair comparison either, since some of Nintendo's other systems were also bundled and so were many PS3's/360's sold), you still end up with an attach rate of roughly 8 games.

Now, that attach rate is still lower compared to that of the PS3 and 360. But even so, that means that Wii owners on average purchased almost as many games as NES owners and only ended up lagging behind GC owners. So your notion that 'NO ONE BOUGHT GAMES' aside from Wii Sports is demonstrably false.

Multiple times I've heard Nintendo is still treating the console and games market like they did in the 90's, namely that they were the go-to place and they had to conform to Nintendo's rules to get their game on the platform. Heavy restrictions in censoring come to mind, both for anything sexual and anything religion, and gore-ish violence. (Crosses were taken out of graveyards, and statues would be modified, clothes would cover more of the bodies, blood replaced with blue sweat or green ooze?, etc)
The only thing that appears to be from the 90's is your sources. =P While Nintendo is a relatively conservative company compared to other video game publishers, their restrictions are MUCH laxer than they were back in the day. Keep in mind that this is the same company that allowed Senran Kagura (a game who's tagline is essentially 'boobs in 3D') to be released and that funded the development of the hardly prudish Bayonetta 2. It's also worth noting that Nintendo has also occasionally been mis-blamed for examples of censorship that had nothing to do with them directly, such as the changes done to Bravely Second (though one could argue that they are still at fault for publishing the game in such a state).

Not to say that Nintendo has gone all hippy or anything (I'm sure some people remember their rejection of the original Binding of Isaac, though they did allow the release of the Rebirth remake last year). But getting games on Nintendo platforms is nowhere near as difficult and restrictive as it used to be. For the most part, Nintendo has learned its lesson quite well in that regard.

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Randalator: Oh yes, I'm so happy that Nintendo might fund the game and then essentially sell it for 400 bucks a piece. I'm giddy with joy.
I don't think anyone rationally expects you to be happy with the notion that BG&E2 might be released exclusively for a platform you don't want. But presuming this rumour is true, that implies that Ubisoft had no interest in releasing the game on its own anymore and that it wouldn't have come out without Nintendo's intervention. So, in practical terms, nothing really changes for you regardless if Nintendo funds the game's development or not; either way, in your eyes, it might as well not even exist.

Remember that we haven't heard anything about the game since 2008. So assuming any of this is true, if you want to blame anyone, blame Ubisoft for not wanting to release the game without external funding.
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Darvond: Also, we have no idea what the NX even IS. As far as anyone outside Nintendo Company Limited is concerned, it could be a fish bowl with augmented reality.
To be fair, assuming this rumour is true, Ubisoft and Nintendo likely weren't planning on announcing this before the NX's unveiling to the general public. =P
Post edited March 05, 2016 by Gandos
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Gandos: The key difference here is that the rumour implies that Nintendo is funding the development of the game, much like they did with Bayonetta 2. Presuming that is the case, then the game will really not see release on a non-Nintendo platform unless Nintendo allows it (and they most likely won't)
I'm personally expecting that this will indeed be the case, and BG&E2 will be Nintendo's "See, we appeal to 'hardcore gamers' too!"-card for the NX, like it was with Bayonetta 2 for the WiiU. Speaking of which, how did Bayonetta 2 on WiiU do? Did it actually make a significant impact on WiiU hardware sales?

The only worrying thing here for me is that BG&E2 will be the only "hardcore" game on launch for the NX (assuming this rumor is true). If anything, I feel like Nintendo needs more titles like it for the NX.
Post edited March 05, 2016 by rampancy
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Gandos: Remember that we haven't heard anything about the game since 2008. So assuming any of this is true, if you want to blame anyone, blame Ubisoft for not wanting to release the game without external funding.
Ubisoft has been on my personal shitlist for years, I can't really shitlist them any more than I've already done...