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Xeshra: If he can get the 3080 TI for 500 CAD... well... i guess it will be hard getting more performance at the same price, i mean "honest performance", not AI performance.
Can 3080 Ti turn on frame gen too?
Is that 5-10 more frames from 3080 to 3080 Ti?
The 3000 series got every non AI powered DLSS-technology = "frame generation", but the only AI-based DLSS technology it can use is "Ray Reconstruction", which will improve RT-quality. It can not support any AI which is focused on quantity = frame generation.

Basically, the 3000 series got the "basic DLSS" = limited frame generation and every technology able to improve quality. It is still a capable series if RT used.

The advantage of 4000/5000 series is: It can use AI-based frame generation, which is a quantity focused technology. So if someone want to produce the highest FPS possible using a Nvidia card: 4000/5000 series is a must have but if someone want to use "only some basic DLSS" while able to maintain the best quality the 3000 series is a good and nowadays affordable deal.

So far there is nothing my 3090 TI could not play and it if really gets worse on performance, the basic DLSS was doing well on any game i own (which is alot).

However... i do not recommend 2000 series or lower... those GPUs are now out of date... and if still used "for classic games only", as it will not be able to offer a good experience on the newest games: Of course it totally depends on the gamer, if someone is only playing small Indies i guess even a integrated GPU is doing well... so it is always very much dependable on the behavior and games someone is playing. My statements are always based on a "Jack of all Trades-PC" not a PC able to satisfy very specific needs.
Post edited August 21, 2025 by Xeshra
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drxenija: Is that 5-10 more frames from 3080 to 3080 Ti?
More or less yes, depending of the resolution and the settings.
Saw 5090 is out now for like starting price: $1999, $2300 ;
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/50-series/rtx-5090/

probably pass, can AMD do AI now too?
here is a August 26th review:https://www.polygon.com/gaming/545482/rtx-5090-review-nvidia-graphics-card-gpu/
Post edited September 05, 2025 by rico001
AMD is working on AI for a good while now. FSR4 is now a possible solution but it may take 1-2 more years in order to challenge DLSS, i assume.

Just look at Sony: The PS5 Pro is now kinda Sonys "Testing ground for AI"... in which FSR4 (PSSR will be merged into FSR4 it seems) may slowly ripe itself until it is perhaps fully mature at the PS6 release. It should be around 2027-2028... and RDNA5 may be the first generation with "mature AI", comparable to Nvidia. Sony kinda is "co-developing" some AI-upscaling and perhaps even frame generation with AMD, it seems.
Post edited September 05, 2025 by Xeshra
well i'm officially gog smacked!! atm i have a 5060Ti lying around, a build for a colleague's son and of course i had to make sure the GPU works and installed it into the secondary pcie slot in my system....

man that little thing is crazy, can you believe it if i tell i just ran Clair Obscure on 60 fps in HD for 40W with x4 frame gen and a nasty little fps lock

Or something like Titan Quest 2... if i boot that program with my 3090Ti the game asks 400W for reasons ? I can game with a 5060Ti on 60 fps in 4k for 100W!

Absolutely amazing what I can do such a baby ,,,,, now i need one for myself :)

to be clear, these are just tests, prolonged gameplay might reveal unwanted effects or results
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Post edited September 20, 2025 by Mr. Zim
Another disastrous example of how power efficient and optimized the 5000 series engine actually is

165W measured while playing Cyberpunk 2077 in 2k with medium ray traced settings at 75 FPS with frame gen enabled ... of course running through the city might yield different results etc but with the knowledge that my 3090Ti would ask 300W for what arguable is a slightly better image, no frame gen and a higher output texture rate w/e, is a bit insane....

So for somewhere in the coming period when i can order something and pick it up without raising too much 'heat' i think imma get that low profile Ventus 8 GB 5060Ti...... and then i hope can make it safely until the 7080 release or something. I can't imagine how the performance profile for the 7000 series will look, and who knows, maybe by that time we have a whole different playingfield tho Nvidia loosing its crown in the coming years... i think not

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Of course it is not all glory and hallelujah with the 5060Ti, Rogue Trader for example, or Detroit become human, Control... Star Field, in those i say Yes Sir, to my 3090Ti

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It took me a whole night of tweaking but i finally managed to get close to the usage profile shown in the first cp2077 screenshot, HD this time, and ... in Night City, 11 gigs of Vram! I still think this will be the preferred way to play! 3090Ti rules!
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Post edited September 21, 2025 by Mr. Zim
I'm still working on a good comparison.....

Last night i ended with 3090Ti rules but the discomforting truth is that in power limited situations, either by choice or by circumstance, it seems the 5060Ti beats the shit out of the 3090Ti. So, uhm, it took me a while last night to find enjoyable settings for the 3090Ti. I ended with a medium settings medium, ray traced, with natural lighting, 70 fps and an overall quite enjoyable picture, sharp, distance, alive... great working world, especially with the crowd on medium at about 220W/h, nothing to shabby you say.
Of course, afterwards i ran into the GoG-forum to solidify my standpoint concerning the 3090Ti but... afterwards, this little voice in the back of my mind had me check one more time before the moment came to gently remove the little bastard from my system.
100W and about 7200Mb VRAM usage, consumption.... Tho i could swear the image quality of 3090ti is higher in fact still but i need some more comparison before i can make a final judgement.

In a couple of weeks, hopefully, first i need to pay some bills and then i can dump another 400 euros into my mean green lean machine!
TLDR : What were the reasons again about everyone, online streamers, fighting against AMD and NVDIA for releasing 8GB cards in this year?!

It is settled! from thursday on i can call myself a RTX 5000 GPU owner, in between a dental and physician with alternative between the physician and the hair dresser, nothing serious btw... i have this little bump under my feet for the last 2 years and finally found the moment to get rid of it.... i will pick up my new GPU from a automated delivery pickup station

Also i moved my 3090Ti to the bottom pcie 5.0 slot, because of airflow reasons in the bottom fan slot i have the outwards blowing rtx 3090Ti radiation,420 mil installed.. i also let the powercable that powered the previous 5060 hang out so my estimate is 1 minute for the complete installation, of course i already unpacked the 5060Ti in my car and will bring it home hidden under my coat ....

For several other online fora i also have a message prepared that has the intention to delf deeper into the reasoning behind the 8 GB bashing done by so many people at lauch of both the latest gen of NVIDIA and AMD cards because sincerely, i had so many titles, well i didn't have much titles installed but a good portion of that small amount of titles functioned quite well in 4k... so yea, i'm actually very curious if i accidently missed something in those video's that showed such comradery in taking the standpoint that a 8 GB card is like shit in 2025, if someone else likes to add your more than welcome (that said i also found a couple of cases, in that small collection of games i had installed that just would not work as far as i could tell)... etc etc
Post edited September 23, 2025 by Mr. Zim
After spending the better part of the wkend with games and such, todays workday was a nice diversion. While i drove home a sudden realization set in.

I am sincerely impressed with the technical prowess of this, RTX5000, NVIDIA generation!

Let's say that the move from RTX 2060 super towards the RTX 3090Ti turned out to be less impressive than the move from the 3090Ti towards the RTX 5060Ti

I was always keen for smaller cards, and of course, you do have to make some concessions, but sincerely, I did not expect DLSS to have matured in such a manner not to mention the power the card actually possess which is clearly visible in the triple A's from not so long ago!

So there you have it..... Earlier discussions based on theoretical performance already lead to some suggestion that the 5070Ti beats a 3090Ti, but the truth is in fact much worse. I can't help but wonder if this is also by nvdiia's doing or developer's part in the sense of the 3090Ti drivers. Is the card or the entire generation still supported in a way that one would expect a company to do for its customers ?

But enough of that pink cloud dreams thinking.... the 5060Ti Ladies and Gentlemen, a card worth having though of course not for public display