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ChrisGamer300: Worthless devs and the amount of devs that care so little about platform parity are too large already not to mention because of actions like what Wolcen Studio has shown, it's a gamble when deciding whether to buy a game at launch or close to it or simply waiting until it's 100% complete unless the devs have already proven themselves several times over.
Perhaps they care, but time invested is not compesated by sales (E.g. due to poor platform updates tools...)?
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hummer010: Regrettably, I backed this on Kickstarter.

I backed a DRM-free Linux game. Three years later, I've got a partially finished DRM-only, online-only, Windows only game.
I exactly know how you feel. It‘s the samefor me. Have you tried to contact them through Kickstarter or elsewhere to get your money back? I‘m still waiting for a response to my message on Kickstarter.
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chandra: Despite their best efforts, the devs behind Wolcen: Lords of Mayhem will not be able to maintain update parity between GOG.COM and other platforms. We've mutually agreed that it's best to delist the game from our catalog.
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joppo: I know you can't oficially say the truth because it would reflect bad on Gog for shaming crappy devs, so let me run this through a de-BSfier:

"Those hacks behind Wolcen couldn't be arsed with updating the game many of you paid for and they think our customers are second class compared to other stores's customers. So we called them out on it and they decided they would rather just cut any future profit from Gog and get away with their current loot. We can't recover what they already took but we can keep them from fooling more of our customers so we're booting out their garbage. We wish we had never invited these assholes in here. Good riddance."
Bluntly, lovely, honest :D

But IMO the nice thing here is regardless how much it gets sugarcoated it makes the devs look utterly incompetent. I mean who would trust them now (no matter which platform) to deliver anything if they cannot keep a game updated on a platform even though they gave their best effort according to the official face-value statement. I mean best effort. In my book that means they gave their A game; they put all their heads and talent together and could not solve the technical mystery of keeping the game updated here. Its nothing short of a miracle that they managed to release something that resembles a game so far under that premise.
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Microfishd: Also, would someone please explain what is meant by "update parity"? Thank you in advance.
Update parity means that when the game is updated on another platform, these updates are also made available on GOG. That isn't always the case. Specifically, it happens often that Steam versions of games receive some patches or additions that never appear on GOG. GOG versions of games are, sadly, sometimes neglected. Some devs, like those of Wolcen apparently, aren't willing to maintain a DRM-free version of a game next to the Steam version.
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Just got a refund for this game. That actually proves GOG cares about their customer.
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ChrisGamer300: Worthless devs and the amount of devs that care so little about platform parity are too large already not to mention because of actions like what Wolcen Studio has shown, it's a gamble when deciding whether to buy a game at launch or close to it or simply waiting until it's 100% complete unless the devs have already proven themselves several times over.
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OldOldGamer: Perhaps they care, but time invested is not compesated by sales (E.g. due to poor platform updates tools...)?
Perhaps but they haven't bothered to update the GOG version in a long, long time and if they care then they have completely underminded it by their actions towards their backers with literally every promise they ever made broken, how they deal with fair criticism and tbh even on Steam they are constantly messing up.

I thought GOG's tool was updated by now ? also that they can now just upload to Galaxy directly and GOG then make offline installers of it.
Post edited March 30, 2019 by ChrisGamer300
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OldOldGamer: Perhaps they care, but time invested is not compesated by sales (E.g. due to poor platform updates tools...)?
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ChrisGamer300: Perhaps but they haven't bothered to update the GOG version in a long, long time and if they care then they have completely underminded it by their actions towards their backers with literally every promise they ever made broken, how they deal with fair criticism and tbh even on Steam they are constantly messing up.

I thought GOG's tool was updated by now ? also that they can now just upload to Galaxy directly and GOG then make offline installers of it.
Probably in that long long time, they didn't sold even one copy.
Why bother then.

We'll never know.
True is, that is not the first developer to act like this; this means is not only their good will to be lacking.
So is there still a chance for Wolcen to return once it's finished or not?
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Swedrami: So is there still a chance for Wolcen to return once it's finished or not?
If I were you, I wouldn't hold my breath.
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sinfulangel: Just got a refund for this game. That actually proves GOG cares about their customer.
The only problem is that it came from GOG's pocket it was not their responsibility but nonetheless they are cool like that.

Shame on you Wolcen Studio!
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Microfishd: Also, would someone please explain what is meant by "update parity"? Thank you in advance.
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Lifthrasil: Update parity means that when the game is updated on another platform, these updates are also made available on GOG. That isn't always the case. Specifically, it happens often that Steam versions of games receive some patches or additions that never appear on GOG. GOG versions of games are, sadly, sometimes neglected. Some devs, like those of Wolcen apparently, aren't willing to maintain a DRM-free version of a game next to the Steam version.
Thank you for the explanation. I appreciate it.
After a bit of a delay I got my wallet refund this morning. Thank God for good Gog team.
I didn't respond earlier to this thread or these kinds of threads. It's good that it's removed but I don't understand that the devs are having a hard time keeping different versions up to date. I mean: all versions can be update at one single build... So if they're that lazy: good that's it's removed!
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Microfishd: I second this statement by Lift

Also, would someone please explain what is meant by "update parity"? Thank you in advance.
Update parity is exactly that. Parity of updates. Parity means approximate equality. Disparity is the lack of equality. You compare thing to test their parity. Update parity between GOG.com and other platforms (see: Steam) means that GOG.com's version of the game is not updated to the same level. Since they're leaving GOG.com, we can only assume that it is less, rather than more.

EDIT: Damn Necropost... Sorry.
Post edited April 19, 2019 by paladin181
I´ve never been that much disappointed by a crowdfunding project I´ve backed. Failing like they did, without any reason...
(even more disappointed then with UnderworldAscended, because they´ve got some good money for their EpicGamesDeal, and that money will probably help to get the project in a good state for the upcoming GOGrelease)