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Vampire: The Masquerade® - Bloodlines™ 2 is now available on GOG in its Standard Edition, Premium Edition, or Deluxe Edition!

Moreover, Vampire: The Masquerade® - Bloodlines™ 2: Santa Monica Memories is also joining the GOG catalog; in this visceral vampire action RPG, you’ll hunt your way through a modern-night Seattle on the brink of an open supernatural war.

And if you buy Vampire: The Masquerade® - Bloodlines™ 2 before October 24th, 6 PM CEST, you’ll receive Vampire: The Masquerade - Reckoning of New York for free!

Check it out!
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Syphon72: ... You need to crack Rockstar launcher to play the game without it. The Paradox launcher is not needed to play the game...
So to remove The Paradox Launcher would be easier than RGL? Are you gonna be fine with RS games coming here bundled with the RGL, since it's so hard to remove? What's your point?

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Syphon72: ... There is likely a licensing agreement for them to include luncher bundle in for selling Paradox games...
Well, if it that's the case, then it's a damn bad agreement, isn't it?

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HunchBluntley: ... As long as a given launcher isn't functioning as DRM..., it is at most a minor annoyance, and it's better to have the game here, and let people decide...
Such compliance is what led to the shittification of the industry in the first place. Nowadays, people with similar attitudes, by giving in to such "minor annoyances" every time, cause the medium to grow more and more egregious. Better, is it? By whose standard? Is it better for the people to have the choice to eat poison and decide for themselves? Of course you're not going to argue against that, you're just a lenient consOOmer, it seems.
Post edited Yesterday by Rubercaine
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Syphon72: ... You need to crack Rockstar launcher to play the game without it. The Paradox launcher is not needed to play the game...
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Rubercaine: So to remove The Paradox Launcher would be easier than RGL? Are you gonna be fine with RS games coming here bundled with the RGL, since it's so hard to remove? What's your point?

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Syphon72: ... There is likely a licensing agreement for them to include luncher bundle in for selling Paradox games...
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Rubercaine: Well, if it that's the case, then it's a damn bad agreement, isn't it?

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HunchBluntley: ... As long as a given launcher isn't functioning as DRM..., it is at most a minor annoyance, and it's better to have the game here, and let people decide...
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Rubercaine:
The launcher is not a form of DRM like RSL, and it is not necessary to play the game. You can completely bypass it without trying to crack it. In fact, the launcher is useful for managing DLC and mods because it allows you to toggle which DLC and mods you want to use. There's no need to sign in or anything like that.

I actually use the launcher.

Not all launchers are end of the world.
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Gamers can in fact play GOGs "Bloodline 2" without the launcher by simply zipping the "Launcher" folder, then deleting it after (it is only zipped so it could be restored if still required at some point). From that point on the game can be started directly from the "Bloodlines2.exe" (not the GOG exe, those are linked to the launcher, which is out of work now).

Not a crack... simply a easy workaround.
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Syphon72: ... You need to crack Rockstar launcher to play the game without it. The Paradox launcher is not needed to play the game...
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Rubercaine: So to remove The Paradox Launcher would be easier than RGL? Are you gonna be fine with RS games coming here bundled with the RGL, since it's so hard to remove? What's your point?

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Syphon72: ... There is likely a licensing agreement for them to include luncher bundle in for selling Paradox games...
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Rubercaine: Well, if it that's the case, then it's a damn bad agreement, isn't it?

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HunchBluntley: ... As long as a given launcher isn't functioning as DRM..., it is at most a minor annoyance, and it's better to have the game here, and let people decide...
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Rubercaine: Such compliance is what led to the shittification of the industry in the first place. Nowadays, people with similar attitudes, by giving in to such "minor annoyances" every time, cause the medium to grow more and more egregious. Better, is it? By whose standard? Is it better for the people to have the choice to eat poison and decide for themselves? Of course you're not going to argue against that, you're just a lenient consOOmer, it seems.
Indeed. Every additional software is just useless bloat. Right now I've to run some games (e.g. Stalker 2) with this setup: Lutris -> GOG Galaxy (Ultimate Edition DRM) -> Game. This is just ridiculous. Having a shop platform client is one thing - having another software by each publisher is pure tracking and data stealing madness. Not to mention that those additional publisher bloat wares have a much smaller userbase and thus are a lot more buggier than the major shop platforms - and some of them lead to stability problems on it's own. Bloodlines 2 also has these reports already.
Game expectations aside, I appreciate the offline installer and launcher workaround.
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Syphon72: ... The launcher is not a form of DRM like RSL...
Did I say it was? Why can't people ever address the actual point?

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Syphon72: ... the launcher is useful for managing DLC and mods because it allows you to toggle which DLC and mods you want to use. There's no need to sign in or anything like that...
(Picrel example). Ok? So it's not necessary. What's the point of it, if it's such an innocuous and insignificant little thing? Why bloat the game with it?

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Syphon72: ... I actually use the launcher....
How is that an argument to what I've said earlier? Great, how does that argue for its value?

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Syphon72: ... Not all launchers are end of the world....
How do you know that?
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*** GOG is screwing with me again
Post edited Yesterday by Rubercaine
Hmm
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Syphon72: ... The launcher is not a form of DRM like RSL...
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Rubercaine: Did I say it was? Why can't people ever address the actual point?

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Syphon72: ... the launcher is useful for managing DLC and mods because it allows you to toggle which DLC and mods you want to use. There's no need to sign in or anything like that...
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Rubercaine: (Picrel example). Ok? So it's not necessary. What's the point of it, if it's such an innocuous and insignificant little thing? Why bloat the game with it?

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Syphon72: ... I actually use the launcher....
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Rubercaine: How is that an argument to what I've said earlier? Great, how does that argue for its value?

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Syphon72: ... Not all launchers are end of the world....
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Rubercaine: How do you know that?
You're reply got posted twice.

The issue you raise lacks a valid point, yet you complain about something you claim adds bloat to your games. In reality, it does not add bloat, and you can completely bypass it. It's optional.. If the launcher was like Kalypso launcher that force you to sign in to play the game I understand you more. But it's not. I already pointed out why they probably have to include the launcher in the first place.

Also I was just saying I use the launcher. Wasn't even argument.
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Syphon72: ... The issue you raise lacks a valid point...
Yes, I know people can just claim that nowadays and disregard any questions. People can do many things, that doesn't make them justified.

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Syphon72: ... you complain about something you claim adds bloat to your games. In reality, it does not add bloat...
What does an additional software that is not needed to run the game constitute as?

Once again, you disregard what I said and strawman me, while at the same time make a claim using what I would only assume as your own proprietary definition of the word. I can point to the definition that I use in this context in the dictionary(noun#3), if you want, but now to the rest of the unanswered questions adds the necessity to prove your claim(which probably would include demonstrating the lack of a malicious intent behind the launcher, btw), which I just pointed is wrong by definition.

But you'll probably just ignore everything again.
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Syphon72: ... The issue you raise lacks a valid point...
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Rubercaine: Yes, I know people can just claim that nowadays and disregard any questions. People can do many things, that doesn't make them justified.

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Syphon72: ... you complain about something you claim adds bloat to your games. In reality, it does not add bloat...
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Rubercaine: What does an additional software that is not needed to run the game constitute as?

Once again, you disregard what I said and strawman me, while at the same time make a claim using what I would only assume as your own proprietary definition of the word. I can point to the definition that I use in this context in the dictionary(noun#3), if you want, but now to the rest of the unanswered questions adds the necessity to prove your claim(which probably would include demonstrating the lack of a malicious intent behind the launcher, btw), which I just pointed is wrong by definition.

But you'll probably just ignore everything again.
You do realize you're first post I replied to was literally a strawman argument by you. You're right I'm going to ignore everything you posted now because this going nowhere.
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Syphon72: ... You do realize you're first post I replied to was literally a strawman argument by you...
You mean my first message here? How can it be a strawman? Do you know what a strawman even is? Lmao.
If you mean any of the later replies, I was literally asking questions, which you conveniently ignored.

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Syphon72: ... You're right I'm going to ignore everything you posted now because this going nowhere...
Sure, say some incoherent BS when you can't answer any questions regarding your own claims and run away. Who needs to justify anything, anyway?

Every single time.
Is there a guide to purchasing this game? Seems quite complicated.

So there is the game (Bloodlines), and three story DLCs, one of which is released and two are coming some day?

Premium version includes the unreleased two DLCs, but not the released one? Was the released one only included for some pre-orders?

And if you buy it before 24th of Oct, you also get some other game which is not part of this release, "Vampire: The Masquerade – Reckoning of New York"?
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timppu: Is there a guide to purchasing this game? Seems quite complicated.
Yes it is the usual Paradox mess, and it would have been even worse had they followed with the original plan.

In short there is two story DLC, not three, the one released is a cosmetic DLC none of the story ones are released yet.

Normal contains the game, Deluxe the game plus the cosmetic DLC and Premium the game, the cosmetic + the two upcoming story DLC (if they get made following the mixed reception of the game). The other game is given regardless of the version you purchase.
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Atlo: Would be interesting to know how many people don't read up on threads or don't use custom install methods i.e. don't know that the launcher can be bypassed and refund the game because of it.
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vv221: I’ve been playing Stellaris for more than 5 years before even noticing it is supposed to include a launcher (because someone asked for it to access multiplayer, something I had never tried myself).
I can't stop smirking about the contrast. =)

The default is set to run Launcher.exe and not Game.exe!? I will refund this game. >:(
I've been playing this game for 5 years. I never even realized there's supposed to be a Launcher.exe.
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