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Posted January 20, 2015
Once more, The Dark Eye gazes upon you!

Blackguards 2, Daedalic Entertainment’s anticipated sequel to one of last year's best tactical RPGs, is now available for Windows and Mac - DRM-free GOG.com with a 10% launch discount!

Blackguards 2 presents a non-linear story of a ragtag group of antiheroes in the gritty world of the The Dark Eye. This hexy, turn based, tactical RPG series is best known for its deep combat system, and Blackguards 2 once again gives players an unprecedented amount of choice on the battlefield. Anything goes out there - knock down a wall and crush your opponents, or drench them in water to go in for a devastating electrical shock. Blackguards 2 is everything a sequel should be: deeper, hexier, and more complex. The combat system saw many requested improvements, with a plethora of fresh and exciting gameplay mechanics waiting to challenge veterans and new players alike.

Quench your thirst for command with the greatly improved tactical experience in Blackguards 2, DRM-free now on GOG.com! The 10% launch discount will last for one week, until Tuesday, January 27, at 10:59 AM GMT.
Posted January 20, 2015
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ShadowWulfe: Whelp, looks like I won't be getting this one anytime soon. I would have preordered, but couldn't get any real response about the status of the apparent game breaking bug in the GOG version of the DLC, requiring a patch over of a pirated version to "fix". A little tough to want to plunk down money when you don't know that kind of status.

Thanks for saving me money, I guess.
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JudasIscariot: Hey, please don't take this like I am trying to sway your opinion or anything but I haven't heard anything regarding the issue you bring up. Perhaps there was a problem earlier with our installers not installing correctly before we fixed them?
ShadowWulfe means game greaking bug in Blackguards (the first one) in version 1.5, which is currently available on GOG (v1.6 allegedly solves the issue, but the patch isn't available on GOG). See post nr. 51 in the pre-order thread:
http://www.gog.com/forum/general/preorder_blackguards_2_series_discount_bc360/page3
Or here:
http://www.gog.com/forum/blackguards_series/gamebreaking_bugs
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Digalin: Is this a standalone or is the first game required to play and/or follow the second?
Standalone, not required.
Post edited January 20, 2015 by vonFreiwaldau
Posted January 20, 2015
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JudasIscariot: Hey, please don't take this like I am trying to sway your opinion or anything but I haven't heard anything regarding the issue you bring up. Perhaps there was a problem earlier with our installers not installing correctly before we fixed them?
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vonFreiwaldau: ShadowWulfe means game greaking bug in Blackguards (the first one) in version 1.5, which is currently available on GOG (v1.6 allegedly solves the issue, but the patch isn't available on GOG). See post nr. 51 in the pre-order thread:
http://www.gog.com/forum/general/preorder_blackguards_2_series_discount_bc360/page3
Or here:
http://www.gog.com/forum/blackguards_series/gamebreaking_bugs
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Digalin: Is this a standalone or is the first game required to play and/or follow the second?
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vonFreiwaldau: Standalone, not required.
From what I remember about this whole ordeal is that the 1.6 patch was basically 1.5 but fixed for non-GOG versions but my memory may be hazy. In any case, if this issue was still around, I know our department, Product, would not be hearing the end of it.

So what we could have here is

a) a gamebreaking issue that hasn't been resolved due to happening on a select few PCs

or

b) people not bothering to report it.

If this particular issue persists, please, please send us Support tickets about it so we can get to the bottom of it, if need be :)
Post edited January 20, 2015 by JudasIscariot
Posted January 20, 2015
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JudasIscariot: Hey, please don't take this like I am trying to sway your opinion or anything but I haven't heard anything regarding the issue you bring up. Perhaps there was a problem earlier with our installers not installing correctly before we fixed them?
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vonFreiwaldau: ShadowWulfe means game greaking bug in Blackguards (the first one) in version 1.5, which is currently available on GOG (v1.6 allegedly solves the issue, but the patch isn't available on GOG). See post nr. 51 in the pre-order thread:
http://www.gog.com/forum/general/preorder_blackguards_2_series_discount_bc360/page3
Or here:
http://www.gog.com/forum/blackguards_series/gamebreaking_bugs
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Digalin: Is this a standalone or is the first game required to play and/or follow the second?
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vonFreiwaldau: Standalone, not required.
Thank you very much.
Posted January 20, 2015
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vonFreiwaldau: ShadowWulfe means game greaking bug in Blackguards (the first one) in version 1.5, which is currently available on GOG (v1.6 allegedly solves the issue, but the patch isn't available on GOG). See post nr. 51 in the pre-order thread:
http://www.gog.com/forum/general/preorder_blackguards_2_series_discount_bc360/page3
Or here:
http://www.gog.com/forum/blackguards_series/gamebreaking_bugs

Standalone, not required.
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JudasIscariot: From what I remember about this whole ordeal is that the 1.6 patch was basically 1.5 but fixed for non-GOG versions but my memory may be hazy. In any case, if this issue was still around, I know our department, Product, would not be hearing the end of it.

So what we could have here is

a) a gamebreaking issue that hasn't been resolved due to happening on a select few PCs

or

b) people not bothering to report it.

If this particular issue persists, please, please send us Support tickets about it so we can get to the bottom of it, if need be :)
I haven't encountered the bug myself; for my last playthrough I used v1.4. The first mention of it I've seen is the pre-order thread. But it seems the GOG version is really mixed up a bit: from this page http://blackguards-game.com/patches/ I see that the 1.6 adds 4 new languages, but according to the gamecard, some of them are already present in GOG version 1.5 – Japanese, Korean and Turkish – while one is omitted – Czech (I'm frowning!) – so, all is not well in the land of GOG :-)
Posted January 20, 2015
Is it a good TRPG game?
Posted January 20, 2015
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Carradice: Would have liked to see a discount for those who already bought the original game, or for those who purchase both at once--not a must, though.
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gandalfnho: They offered an extra 10% discount to owners of the first game, but only during the pre-order
Must have missed it, then. Thanks for pointing it out.
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gandalfnho: They offered an extra 10% discount to owners of the first game, but only during the pre-order
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Zoidberg: Preorders...
Do preorders impact negatively the making of good games? Is the same accepting a preorder from an AAA budget project than accepting one for more obscure titles--or plain underdogs?

Help the underdog that made good games already...
Post edited January 20, 2015 by Carradice
Posted January 20, 2015
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JudasIscariot: Whelp, looks like I won't be getting this one anytime soon. I
I wasn't 100% clear on everything, but it was enough of a question mark in the air to make me reconsider preordering. I'm sure it's fine, but the preorder deal is over so it's a moot point now.
Posted January 21, 2015
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Carradice: Do preorders impact negatively the making of good games?
Yes. Without any doubt, and it impoverishes the whole industry. Again, without a doubt. One just has to look: preorders, DLC (day one and incentive), unfinished pieces of crap, money grabbing, etc...
Posted January 21, 2015
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JudasIscariot: From what I remember about this whole ordeal is that the 1.6 patch was basically 1.5 but fixed for non-GOG versions but my memory may be hazy. In any case, if this issue was still around, I know our department, Product, would not be hearing the end of it.

So what we could have here is

a) a gamebreaking issue that hasn't been resolved due to happening on a select few PCs

or

b) people not bothering to report it.

If this particular issue persists, please, please send us Support tickets about it so we can get to the bottom of it, if need be :)
I've done just that right when I made the forum post. A copy of one of the e-mails I received from GOG:

Hello

Sorry for the late reply. I've investigated your save files and the same issue occurs on my configuration. This can only mean that the files are corrupted. I'm unable to tell why this has happened, I did not get any other reports of this issue, but there was a similar issue with an earlier version resolved by a new patch.

The Developer of the game might be able to check the save files and provide more help:
http://www.daedalic.de/en/support/

If the official support is unable to help or doesn't respond within a week I can offer you a replacement game/games of equal value or a refund.
Before I can refund this purchase, please send me the following, in order to verify that you are the account's owner:
(depending on whether you used a credit card or PayPal)
a) The last 4 digits of your credit card number or
b) The PayPal Transaction ID you received after the purchase.

Regards
Genoan

GOG.com Support
This answer concerns ticket number IN23Y2SR, which is now closed.
You can reply to this e-mail to reopen the ticket.
It was reported. I also submitted both GOG and Daedalic the actual corrupted save game files. Still have them archived, for that matter.

After second support request (first one received no response), Daedalic responded with:

sorry that it took so long for me to anwer but we are rather busy here. I heard of this problem before but i fear that we don't have the capacitys to adress this right now, since we are on a tight time scedule for Blackguards 2. You see if we fixed this now, we would have to do a full Patch cycle including intensive testing. So we won't be able to fix this soon. But i can tell you how to activate the cheat console so you could at least return to your progress easily.
For this, create a new shortcut to the Blackguards.exe and then open the properties of this new shortcut. In the properties add ' -devcon' at the very end of the target line. Now start the game via the Shortcut and open the console in-game with F12. There you can just enter a command and hit enter to activate it. Use the commands 'win' to win a fight where the objective is not to kill all enemies, or 'kill all enemies' to do just that.
I wish i could help you more, but we don't have any time to spare. Fell free to mail me again if you have questions left.

best regards
Marc
Even moar edits:

By the way, from another e-mail back on 10/24/14:

Hello

I've forwarded your request to our Product Team. Still I think that the official support:
support@daedalic.de
can be most helpful.
Please write if you change your mind about the replacement or refund.

Regards
Genoan

GOG.com Support
At least GOG was kind enough to offer refunds through all that ordeal. Wasn't an money issue for me, though - would rather have a working game.
Post edited January 21, 2015 by Lukaszmik
Posted January 21, 2015
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Roxolani: Is it a good TRPG game?
I wouldn't call it good, especially if you look at it from a TRPG perspective:
- battles are very small scale
- battles are very luck dependent (miss miss miss miss miss)
- no way to grind and easy to make a bad build

But I guess the opinions might differ on that.

I would start with Blackguards 1, though. Wait for a sale, get it, if you like it, get Blackguards 2. Oh wait, you don't actually need to wait for a sale, there is an extensive free demo available afaik.
Posted January 21, 2015
...hope it keep the pros from 1 and ereased some of the cons
Posted January 21, 2015
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Roxolani: Is it a good TRPG game?
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RyaReisender: I wouldn't call it good, especially if you look at it from a TRPG perspective:
- battles are very small scale
- battles are very luck dependent (miss miss miss miss miss)
- no way to grind and easy to make a bad build

But I guess the opinions might differ on that.

I would start with Blackguards 1, though. Wait for a sale, get it, if you like it, get Blackguards 2. Oh wait, you don't actually need to wait for a sale, there is an extensive free demo available afaik.
Thanks for the info, good and clear details. :)
Posted January 22, 2015
I forgot to mention that what bothered me a little about Blackguards 1 was the bad UI. I often made moves I didn't want to because of it. I read that this was improved in Blackguards 2.

One example I remember is when there was a harmful tile between you and the enemy, even though you had enough movement points to walk around it your character would just walk on it instead. And it often was hard to tile which tiles are even harmful at all.
Post edited January 22, 2015 by RyaReisender
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