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GameRager: [...]
Maybe it was cracked(BIG if, but still....), but the publisher/drm makers don't want to let people know and lose profits from drm sales/loss of faith by consumers?
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amok: I think from what is seen so far, it is quite clear. the Bethesda store version did not have Denuvo, which gave the hackers a pretty clean .exe to to work with

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GameRager: It(from what I have heard) takes time to strip the drm out of each game....even if it uses a drm that has been cracked on other games before.
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amok: *shrug* still does not explain why a game released 2 days ago is cracked, but not one 30 days ago. if you are right, then Rage 2 should not have been cracked yet, as it "takes time to strip the drm out of each game."
1. That first bit is their own press release/answer to the issue. I'd take it with about as much faith as a guy telling me in a used car lot that a broken down heap was only ridden by one sweet old lady to church on sundays for a year.

2. Who knows....maybe they got a leaked screener/preview copy and released it?
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GameRager: 1. That first bit is their own press release/answer to the issue. I'd take it with about as much faith as a guy telling me in a used car lot that a broken down heap was only ridden by one sweet old lady to church on sundays for a year.
No, it is not. Bethesda and iD is stum on the matter. it is from the hackers redit

"In this case, a weakness in Denuvo's security wasn't actually to blame. According to posts on the CrackWatch subreddit, while the Steam version of Rage 2 shipped with Denuvo, the .exe on the Bethesda Launcher did not contain the DRM. That strange oversight (or choice) on Bethesda's part gave crackers a way in. Access to a clean executable seemingly made it trivial to release a crack that bypassed Rage 2's online check-in at launch."
https://www.pcgamer.com/uk/denuvo-cracks-2019/

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GameRager: 2. Who knows....maybe they got a leaked screener/preview copy and released it?
or..... they had a clean .exe to work with?
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GameRager: 1. That first bit is their own press release/answer to the issue. I'd take it with about as much faith as a guy telling me in a used car lot that a broken down heap was only ridden by one sweet old lady to church on sundays for a year.
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amok: No, it is not. Bethesda and iD is stum on the matter. it is from the hackers redit

"In this case, a weakness in Denuvo's security wasn't actually to blame. According to posts on the CrackWatch subreddit, while the Steam version of Rage 2 shipped with Denuvo, the .exe on the Bethesda Launcher did not contain the DRM. That strange oversight (or choice) on Bethesda's part gave crackers a way in. Access to a clean executable seemingly made it trivial to release a crack that bypassed Rage 2's online check-in at launch."
https://www.pcgamer.com/uk/denuvo-cracks-2019

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GameRager: 2. Who knows....maybe they got a leaked screener/preview copy and released it?
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amok: or..... they had a clean .exe to work with?
1. My bad...I thought it was their official stance.

2. And they could've gotten such from such copies as well as one somehow leaked by the devs accidentally....i.e. both ideas are equally plausible without insider knowledge on the matter.
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GameRager: [...]
2. And they could've gotten such from such copies as well as one somehow leaked by the devs accidentally....i.e. both ideas are equally plausible without insider knowledge on the matter.
in any case it is a moot point, as it means it was not Denuvo that was cracked.
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GameRager: [...]
2. And they could've gotten such from such copies as well as one somehow leaked by the devs accidentally....i.e. both ideas are equally plausible without insider knowledge on the matter.
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amok: in any case it is a moot point, as it means it was not Denuvo that was cracked.
Thank you for providing a source, though PC Gamer is not exactly on my respected list.

Bethesda have actually done this before, with Skyrim. Skyrim was actually for a short while executable without the steam client.

Makes you wonder if this (Rage2) was an experiment.

Whatever the real reason is, it will provide proof to some that DRM may not be what it says on paper.

My opinion, DRM may be being tested for not actually providing any benefit but merely introducing a hefty overhead.
that would be great if itcome on gog.
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Thunker: that would be great if itcome on gog.
Dragons sometimes fly backwards, and I believe it will come to gog eventually, but that is another topic.