it is enough for most people
a lot of people just want one box under their tv and have that be the end of it
they just have to do well what they offer


personally i have zero interest in VR
3D gives me a headache at best and makes me motion sick at worst
i am not interested in finding out what VR wil do to me
and i dont plan to hork up north of a grand just for the privilege of having my own personal barf machine

As an older gamer, I am sure MS or Sony are not after PC gamers at all. There will be generations of kids/players who may never use a PC and grow up using a phone to swipe away at games; moving to a touch control pad, plug in, turn on, sit back gaming will be appealing.

PC gaming for me.

Nothing whatsoever, just look at how great successes Sega 32X and Sega Saturn were (and Sega CD, despite not being the same year).

and the dreamcast

You say that, though it's even easier to just plug and play, on PC these days, if that's what you choose.
If your PC meets the minimum specs, you can P'n'P, without even needing the disc.

That most PC gamers choose to tweak the settings, and mod games, is because they have the ability to choose, not because they have to settle for the default.

Only when the game and/or hardware is older, does it get complicated (Without GOG), but consoles have those issues, by being previous gen, difference is, they cant get the old things to work, we can.

Plug'n'Play PC gaming is easier than consoles, these days, for anyone with new enough hardware.

batman arkham knight and batman the telltale wreck seem to disagree with that

You get badly made console games, causing issues, but even then, the games ran, just not very well.
Poorly made games exist on all platforms. That makes no difference to the fact that you can P'n'P on all of them.

Then there's the whole subscription thing

very much debatable that

i stil have to check my specs see if they meet and upgrade a host of drivers to get a game to work
and if it doesnt work it can be anything
from a botched install to visual C to visual basic to a run time library to direct X being exceptional
or down tot he damn game just not willing to run ( nox ) on an OS

most people just dont have the time or inclination to deal with that

on consoles its exactly 3 things
botched installation-download reinstall or download
damaged disc : rebuff disc
damaged drive : off to service land with you

No it's not, people don't want to bother to learn how to upgrade or tweak their games, i have a friend that has been gaming for years but barely has interest in pc gaming because he needs me to tell him how to install the mods or tweak the settings.

If the pc meets the minimum you still need to find that sweat spot where the game doesn't look ass and runs at an acceptable framerate.

From my point of view, i always accept the console because i knew i was getting the same experience than everyone else with the same console and even if i had to pay for online features at least i knew there wasn't any cheaters around.

But now? What's the point in having a console besides the easy setting (put the game on the console and play, there, nothing more to worry about)?

Microsoft is putting their exclusives on PC, they're making more powerful versions of their console making pointless investing in a console early (showing the middle finger to early purchasers), now there will be players with a better resolution (more field of view) and even if NOW they say that mp will have the same framerate i don't believe it will stay the same for the future when they notice that the console isn't selling as intended.

Meh, fuck them, i alway thought in investing more in a pc and this was the final push, i'll still use the ps4 until the PS5 appears but between now and then i'll probably already have a nice pc that will suffice my gaming needs, i'll still have to endure the multiplayer bullshit on pc but to be honest i'm getting too old for mp games...

http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/feature/pc-components/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-vs-gtx-1070-vs-gtx-1060-3640925/

GTX 1080: US$599 - 9 TFLOPS
GTX 1070: US$379 - 6.5 TFLOPS
GTX 1060: US$249 - 3.8 TFLOPS

Prices may vary of course.

Nice find! I couldn't locate any on the normal bench sites.

Given the PS4 is 4.2 TFLOPS, it can be more powerful than the GTX 1060. I don't know how TFLOPS translate into direct graphical power, but lacking any other information and also not having any cross-platform tests to compare, its best to not be 100% sure until they release more info.