Another round in the big game of 'who is the most SUSpicious and gets to breathe a bit of vaccuum?' Pay attention folks! the PA announces.

Vet count ... nah, vote count. Good that I didn't lose the other o!

Pooka 2 - Cat 343, trent 375
Cat 1 - Pooka 345
trent 1 - Scene 309

Not voting: microsagededo.
In the lead: Pooka at L-2

Also:

Scene, your last post was 2 days ago. Please return to the game. I know you announced difficulties with your time budget, but please try to participate a bit!
All the best wishes to your mom. May she get well soon!

Just a Quick Update - Spoke to the ER doctor attending her a few minutes ago. She has dislocated her right shoulder, and they're not sure what else. What this means for the game is that once she comes home, she's going to need a lot more help from me than just running a few errands in the morning.

My free time is going to be primarily in the evening for my time zone (US Pacific, UTC-7) after whatever time she decides to to bed. I won't have time to make anymore long posts.

Don't worry. Health and family come first. This is only a game. So take all the time that you need for your mother

1. you're not out of line, and 2. this is a good idea......I will PM scene to see how they want to proceed.
(while I wait for a reply, everyone else can continue playing/posting as normal)

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First off, I hope/pray your mum recovers quickly.
Also, (as Lift said earlier) post as you can/feel best......family/etc come first :)

I hope there isn't anything else and your mom gets well soon - usually it takes some 3-4 weeks before normal movement can safely be restored gradually. Fingers crossed things go well and quickly.


Maybe CatV can also use a little time out to handle her issues at home. I don't know about others but to me it doesn't feel right to play around these things, especially given the fact that CatV is currently a central figure to the spotlight development from Today.

Wouldn't this mean since you are now no longer investigating or picking locks then mafia is crippled and can never have a successful NK if no one is opening doors.


Isnt every power role speical? Mod favor I know.

This reads as genuine to me.

Micro post 360 IMO seem very hard trying to be nuertral in the first two parts.

Everyone else does it so I can do it too excuse..
How is Dedo being rash?
What do you mean by mafia doesnt work like that?
IMO it would be stupid to be to rash and lynch quickly when we have time for everyone to discussion and move forward together. Calling it stupid in general is not correct.

I am curious too if this has not been answered yet.

What worries me if how she waited to see how each piece of Information was reacted to by everyone before releasing more at start of day and then the amount of time and thought that went into the scenarios, if she can come up with these scenarios it wouldn't be hard to come up with the one she is claiming.

Do you not feel that is what is happening?

Can you point me to where he says this.

Maybe a break through the weekend? I guess the ship ran into a time distortion field and we are at a stop until we emerge out of it ;)

I snuck on because I finally have been afforded one meal today and more importantly, mom is asleep at the moment. I anticipate that I won't get on today because I'm already feeling tired. (Only 1pm.)


The biggest complication here is that my mom has OCD, which means she wants everything done one way only and at a specific time or it stresses her out and raises her blood pressure. This means that a lot of things get done the hard way just for the sheer sake of doing it that way. We literally got into an argument this morning over me wanting a glass of water.



It was a reply to you specifically back on Day 1, so I do not understand why you do not know this.


Sage103082: So they can fail.

GamezRanker: Yes, scum have a failure chance when attempting to "nab a player for conversion"(NKs).

https://www.gog.com/forum/general/private_forum_game_forum_mafia_80_tripping_through_outside_space/post32


The first post of the thread was also since edited:

WIN CONDITIONS

The human crew wins when all Susians onboard have been spaced. This is done via an old earth custom called a "vote", with the crew member carrying the majority vote by "day's end" being tossed into the nearest airlock(with the hopes, of course, that they were indeed a Susian)

Susians win when their number matches the remaining number of human crew.
Each "night" they attempt to convert* one of their fellow crew into another Susian, thereby growing their numbers.
(*i.e. a regular NK)

https://www.gog.com/forum/general/private_forum_game_forum_mafia_80_tripping_through_outside_space/page1

Yes a failure chance. He did not say that the night kill failed on its own or why it failed. Unless I missed it, hence why I asked.

With what Dedo said earlier, your mom should rest lots and not think too hard about doing housework or any of the sorts, Catventurer. Hope she recovers soon, it's not something to take lightly either.

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Now with that said... (in-game now) I have got a nagging feeling... Lemme skim quick.

So Catventurer made 10 posts since she voted me (vote post included). As well, it's been three whole days since then. Yet, she hasn't replied to any of my posts. I feel like I'm shouting at a brick wall.

It's like she's playing it safe by simply dodging all of my points and pretending they're not there, and therefore I get to waste my breath AND accumulate votes, while she just sits there leisurely, sipping coffee all the while. Maybe if she entertained me, she'll reveal more holes in her narrative for Townies to poke at, so better not engage with me? Like I dunno, but my idea of the Cop stumbling upon the Scum is that Cop will convince everyone that Scum is scum, she'll even go out of her way to convince Scum himself that he should just go. Then, Town benefits from the back-and-forth between Cop and Scum.

The even weirder thing is that none of the rest of you noticed that. At all.

In my defense i've been offline most of the last few days.
Sorry about your Mom, Catv!

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I... You're right, Pooka, Catv hasn't responded to you.

This.
Yes. Which is why I unvoted. Trent, you, myself(at least mentally), Pooka(?) and Dedo all have brought this up.
An Unclaimed, still active cop would try to hide, ofc, but a self-professed "former" cop has no reason to hide.

You clearly have never dealt with an OCD person. It's constant ridiculousness and emotional blackmail because the first thing I did this morning was feed my cat. I was supposed to go outside and spend an hour picking up dried leaves by hand. No sweeping them because doing that might break them when I don't know. They're going to end up in the green waste anyway, so why does it matter? It does matter to her.



There isnt anything to discuss. It's clear that certain individual(s) want to vote to have me lynched but don't want to seem too eager.

Fact: You're not getting eliminated today at all.
I'll go so far as to say that even after I'm revealed to be town-aligned, you still won't be eliminated.

Sorry for being away. Lots of stuff going on at work and I'll probably have to ground my son when he gets home from his grandparents.

I haven't had any time to go back but at least the game has been substantially slower in the last couple of days so catching up wasn't as bad as I feared.

As for the conflict at hand, I believe it has to be resolved for Today. One of the CatV and Pooka needs to be sent and then the other ones needs to be re-considered accordingly. The way CatV went about the whole ordeal and the thought process behind it doesn't align with how I would have gone about it but it still has a general truthful tone about it and I can't piece a scenario in which scum!CatV goes in that direction right now. What I said I wanted to comment additionally on the other day is the following:

I don't exclude the scenario where both of them are scum. In a game with so few players the scum can somewhat easily flip the game as long as they manage to stay alive while taking Town out in the first couple of days. An early scum bus can be a massive boost for them and can win games if done correctly. The problem with that is that it was done in a weird way - if it was concerted why go about it like that and not spare themselves the trouble and just pop Pooka right of the gate? CatV was already mostly Town-read so it doesn't make sense to me.

The other thing that I'm concerned about is the scum's swing potential. Assuming "normal" ratios, even on a ML Today we still shouldn't lose so why would scum!CatV jump the gun like that? A ML shouldn't win them the game mathematically unless weird shit. CatV may be lying - claim Cop, accuse someone, get a 1-1 trade and potentially lure the real Cop out. Also, she has a nice little built-in trait in being one-shot which can potentially be relied on later on to explain why she keeps being alive even though her target flipped scum and she was effectively confirmed Town - she's no longer a PR and scum are gunning for others. Perfectly valid scum play. But the timing still seems off to me.

What I'm concerned about are abnormal kill power traits they may have. I remember a game where we had some sort of way to kill 2 people at once under certain circumstances which I don't remember. The game was quite broken in terms of setup and the Town was powerful AF and because of that had PoE-ed my sexy counterpart but there was a super tiny chance for us to actually turn things around and win a lost game as long as we survived the Day by killing 2 people one of which may have been a lover or something like this (I believe the double kill would have resulted in a tripe kill or something like that, can't recall but there was mathematically a way to do it).

Another thing I remember is a game I hosted - where the scum had a mechanism called "kill power" that was supposed to balance things out - I don't remember in details how it worked but I think it was supposed to help out a lonely scum still have fighting chance if their buddy gets booted D1 by upping their kill power and allowing them to perform 2 NKs a Night. There were some failsafe fetures in place and I'm pretty sure a built-in chance was in place but I can't remember how it worked. That last bit was the first thing I got concerned about when GR mentioned it and it's the main thing that concerns me at the moment.

No matter how I look at it I can't see CatV and Pooka being on the same scum team. It makes no sense to me.


If you're referring to me - yes, mentally I'm voting you right now. I'm as eager as I can be and you can consider my vote being on you. I'm holding back because we still have time and the game is suffering from availability issues by a lot of people who have a lot on their plates.

Wait, what?? I could have sworn I was responding to Pooka's post.

EBWOP: That last paragraph should be disregarded or maybe not, but should be known that it's made with Pooka in mind so he is the one I'm mentally voting for right now.