A bit pricey. Maybe someday, but I was never the biggest SS2 fan, so I can wait for the price to come down after its release.

While SS2 is fun in its own right, I still think the original is the better game of the two. *shrug*

Still little less than 500% but close. Agree with no one probably buy the game full price. At least on PC.

The problem is that these mods were done for free, written by fairly anonymous designers that may or may not still be in the modding scene (let alone be contacted). What's more, many of these modders did it thinking that they would never receive a dime for their work, doing it mainly for the love of the game or to improve their coding prowess (this looks great on a CV, especially if the modder is trying to apply to a game company).

It might not be right in our eyes but if Nightdive acknowledges the original mods and modders as the basis for their remaster in the credits than that would be considered good enough. (Again, it's not ideal but it would be more than a lot of modders would have ever gotten from developers.)

I seriously doubt they would use so many mods without having explicit permission, and modders don't have to ask for compensation you know? that's up to them, some may be happy just being in the credits

And even beyond that, modding is a grey area in the first place, for example Bethesda literally owns the right for every mod developed with the creation kit for TES or Fallout

Did they take out the excellent (but incredibly buggy) co-op multiplayer? I was hoping that would be fixed in this remaster.

Been years since the announcement... Kickstarter? huh
I've tried to make 2nd playthrough with mods few times since... almost forever.
Guess this might be good time...

This is pretty bad if the HD mod gives you the same experience with zero costs. I wonder why ND just didn't do a remake like with the first game. Maybe they didn't get approval to do it.

Having played modded SS2 a lot back in 2011 I can certify the following:

SS2 had a dedicated mod manager already back in 2011 (SS2BMM, now succeded by DMM, that already allowed engine updates and integrated mod management). Install DMM today on your copy of SS2 and you will be able to benefit from fan-made engine improvements (SS2 Community Patch), in addition to seamless modding installation. Don't know what they will be doing with the remaster, but it'll be hard to top that, especially if the Kex engine ends up requiring mods being packaged differently, or introducing compatibility problems with DMM which may or may not be solvable.

The remaster seems to have HEAVILY borrowed from certain community mods, namely SHTUP-ND (High-resolution textures, although there are some minimal differences from screenshoots), various object improvements from a modder named Vurt, and lastly revised weapon models from a mod named Tacticool Complete. By borring heavily I mean it's almost the same, minus some touchups. Only relevant difference seems to be that they added weapon animations when equipping/reloading, and actually introduced the character's left hand when wielding the pump shotgun (Original had a non-animated deelay with each shot, but no visible pump-action reload animation)

There appear to be some lighting/shader differences, although it's way too early to say what the end result will be.

NightDive seems hell bent on using their own Kex Engine, while fanmade NewDark engine is already available (SS2 on both GOG and other storefronts already ship with NewDark by default). Don't know why they continue insisting with this policy where Kex Engine is used as a wrapper for the original game's binary when it already failed spectacularly with Blood.

Honestly it's looking like a cashgrab, but we'll have to wait and see.

What the heck is this terrible blinking green text on the game page? Bloody unreadable...

It's styled the same as the text in in-game FMVs. Reads fine on PC, less so on mobile

Gonna check that link out. Thanks bruh :)

Agreed, still I really like this particular game. What to do, what to do...

You do know that the devs are working with mod makers to add their mods and new modding work, right? That said, I also think the price is somewhat high for what can be done with free mods.

I believe all the modders who contributed content will get free game copies.

I hear ya, still if this means more modding(especially single player stuff) and future (good) games...

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Link to NightDive's thread on System Shock Forums
(attached pic shows mods added and modders contacted)

I believe ND is putting their names in the credits as well. Several modders also got contacted and agreed to let their content be added to the game and/or to work on addtional content.

From what I read in the thread I linked in the prior post above, they seem to have fixed that :)

Maybe, or maybe (like with SS1) they're gonna release this then a remake to double dip. My money's on the latter.

From reading the System Shock Forum thread, it seems the added stuff was done by some of the original mod devs.

Afaik a number of community mods will be comptible with the new version.

Agreed, especially as they'll likely make a remake somewhere down the line as well.

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Link to NightDive's thread on System Shock Forums
(attached pic shows mods added and modders contacted)

I see the trend continues... that price is absurd. I had a slim hope that this would be an update for previous owners like Quake/Doom, but I guess I actually have id to thank for that. There's not even a special discount for those who have the original, just a blanket 10% off if you roll the dice by preordering, and even then the price is still unreasonable for what's being offered. Nightdive is slowly turning into Beamdog...

Yeah, that was my first thought, too.
The first text ("How can you challenge...") is quite ok - but the second ("System Shock 2 25th Anniversary...") is a pain in the eyes.
It's simply too bright.
Though, honestly: I think they toned it down already - when I first saw it, it seemed even brighter (or maybe I just got used to it by now).

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