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I left the thread overnight and what an awesome support I got, thanks guys :-) Let me add some more details:

- I chose HP Omen series and these given specs are all present in Omen's laptops,
- I'm currently using 17,3" HP Envy with i7 and GT650 - I bought it over 4 years ago and it's performance (GPU mostly) isn't satisfying anymore. I might have dropped my laptop on the floor once or twice... That's another reason for a new one ;-) ,
- SSD is a nice option but not a necessity, unless the gaming experience is improved (I don't know, is it?)
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HereForTheBeer: A few questions:

Budget?
Around 1500$.
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HereForTheBeer: How long do you plan to use it before replacing?
Around 4 years.
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HereForTheBeer: Besides gaming, what else do you use it for - among those things that might require some beefy hardware?
Only movies and browsing Internet, nothing demanding apart from games.
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Bigs: Though if it includes a gtx 10 series it's surprising that kaby lake (7x00) isn't being used...
Models I chose with 6xxx processors were released almost a year ago, so I believe 7xxx hasn't been released back then.
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mofofromjkt: does this laptop can be upgarade it to 16 GB Ram ? can't have enough ram nowadays.
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brainvision: buying a new laptop with 8 GB only of ram is nonsense imo, except if you alreay planned to buy a 8 GB stick to add as soon as it arrives!
It can be equipped with 16GB, but is it really improving the performance in gaming?
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mofofromjkt: make sure to get & install windows 7 instead of windows 10 ;)
Windows 10 is preinstalled on these models, I got used to it anyways :P
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hohiro: Only make sure the 1060 has 6GB of ram.
HP's site says it's 6GB version indeed.

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Themken: (As a side note, I still do not get those who buy gaming laptops but that was not really the topic here. Maybe very tight on space, maybe loves LAN parties.)
The space is the issue in my case. I'm playing with laptop on my laps (on the cooling pad ofc) while sitting on the couch - I don't have any space for a desk, and table isn't comfy enough for a long run.

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jeffkiwi: Buy a 15.6" not a 17"

A 17" is big and heavy, you may as well buy a desktop instead.

My course tutor has a Lenovo Yoga and that packs an I-7 as well as an SSD drive. Make sure you get at least a 256GB SSD drive. You will use it up fast!
I really got used to 17,3" with my current laptop ;-)

As long as the SSD is concerned, 128GB SSD is an option, but it costs additional 100$ - I don't know if it's worth the price.

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drealmer7: I'll never understand why people want to game on laptops
Sometimes you don't have any other choice. I don't have enough space in my apartment to set up a desktop one. Another case is that my apt has only 2 rooms and sometimes I have to move with my laptop from one room to another during the day - with a desktop it would be impossible.

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drealmer7: And to add, there are quite some portable 17" laptops out. Mine is just 3kg and easily fits in both of my backpacks together with other things ;)
Yeah, it's not a problem - it weighs 3,3kg, 15,6" one 2,2kg. So that's not that big difference.

Thank you guys for detailed answers, most of you advise i7-6700 with 1060. This spec was put in 2016 models. 2017 models, with Kaby Lake and 1050/1050 Ti, are being currently released with their price really similiar to current prices of previous year models. That's understable, better processor + weaker card equals similiar price.

I assume the price of 2016 models might decrease as the 2017 ones approach, so that's the opportunity there.
Post edited May 09, 2017 by zeffyr
Looking around it seems the speed difference between a 6xxx and a 7xxx processor of the otherwise exact same type is minimal.
Post edited May 09, 2017 by Themken
I agree with what some others have said in favour of buying the one with the most powerful GPU, as the GPU is almost always the bottleneck when it comes to games these days, and even a lot of older or lower end processors have ample CPU horsepower to end up not being the bottleneck. That's the general case anyway even if there might be specific combinations that are an exception. The list there though doesn't appear to have any exceptions, so definitely I'd go with the most powerful GPU first, and the most powerful CPU as the secondary factor.
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zeffyr: - SSD is a nice option but not a necessity, unless the gaming experience is improved (I don't know, is it?)
Your games will load up much quicker, including inbetween levels / transitioning to new areas. Away from gaming though, having windows installed on a HDD is slow and isn't going to make your new laptop feel like much of an upgrade aside from the graphics capability. Having an SSD speeds up your general use of the computer so much and is the most noticible upgrade you can give to a PC, more so than upgrading a CPU even. It really is night and day.
Post edited May 10, 2017 by heartburnron
I just bought a 15.3" laptop (would've gone for a 17 incher but OMG the prices in Poland get crazy if you want to move up to that size...)

I would recommend that you look on the bottom, if you have physical access, of the laptop and make sure that your laptop has proper screws and not rivets or whatever the word "plombowany" would translate to :P The reason for that is you will void your warranty if you remove the rivets whereas the screws can be easily removed and replaced.

This is useful if you are planning on adding more memory to your laptop down the road like I am.

As for games my current laptop can handle The Witcher 3 on whatever settings the GeForce Experience application sets them without a hassle.

My laptop's specs:

Intel i5-7300HQ @ 2.50 GHz
8 GB DDR4
Nvidia GTX 1050 4 GB VRAM
1 TB HDD although I hope I can swap it out for an SSD somehow
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HereForTheBeer: How long do you plan to use it before replacing?
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zeffyr: Around 4 years.
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HereForTheBeer: Besides gaming, what else do you use it for - among those things that might require some beefy hardware?
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zeffyr: Only movies and browsing Internet, nothing demanding apart from games.
For both of these reasons, then, I have to echo what so many others have said: go for the best GPU available in your budget range. I tend to keep my laptops for a long time, too, and for me the GPU always ends up being the bottleneck over time.

Also to echo others' sentiments, look at upgradability. RAM is the easiest, HDD isn't usually too bad. Nowadays many chassis will have an open M2 slot into which you can pop an SSD when your budget allows. I do enjoy the speediness of the bootup on an SSD, but I haven't noticed a major boost when running programs. Depends on what you programs you run, though.

Whatever you get, happy shopping - and post pics when you get it.
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JudasIscariot: I just bought a 15.3" laptop (would've gone for a 17 incher but OMG the prices in Poland get crazy if you want to move up

I would recommend that you look on the bottom, if you have physical access, of the laptop and make sure that your laptop has proper screws and not rivets or whatever the word "plombowany" would translate to :P The reason for that is you will void your warranty if you remove the rivets whereas the screws can be easily removed and replaced.
HP Omen has an integrated battery ( replaceable however, but the procedure is somewhat of an hassle ). To remove the bottom, there are 12 screws to remove. Something to think about however.

Regarding the debate on the HDD, am I wrong to think that the HP Omen has both a Sata connection of a 2.5 inches SDD/HDD/SSHD and an M2 slot. If so, then go for a 256GB ( or 128GB) M2 SSD, with a 2TB SSHD (or a 2TB HDD) .... I would recommend the OP to use the M2 drive for the OS, except for the swap partition. That way he will have the best of both worlds.
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zeffyr: I left the thread overnight and what an awesome support I got, thanks guys :-) Let me add some more details:
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I assume the price of 2016 models might decrease as the 2017 ones approach, so that's the opportunity there.
I had a look in an electronics shop today and oh my gogness 17" gaming laptops are expensive. There WAS however a money back drive where you can get up to like 8% of your money back from Microsoft if you did the paperwork. Maybe there is a similar deal in Poland? Getting €100-200 back cannot be a bad thing unless you are so rich that pocket change like that matters not. Personnally I can only dream about paying ~€2000 for a computer.
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Themken: I had a look in an electronics shop today and oh my gogness 17" gaming laptops are expensive. There WAS however a money back drive where you can get up to like 8% of your money back from Microsoft if you did the paperwork. Maybe there is a similar deal in Poland? Getting €100-200 back cannot be a bad thing unless you are so rich that pocket change like that matters not. Personnally I can only dream about paying ~€2000 for a computer.
Here you get decent ones with 1060 and i7 6th gen from 1300€ and up, but if you are patient you can get a discount of 150-200 on them at special occasions. For me the portability is worth it, as the comp is with me all the time and used for work and gaming and music and movies and ...
My personal solution is having two computers so I do see the use for a laptop for sure but now we are off rails as this hardly is relevant to zeffyr's problem.
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zeffyr: I left the thread overnight and what an awesome support I got, thanks guys :-) Let me add some more details:
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I assume the price of 2016 models might decrease as the 2017 ones approach, so that's the opportunity there.
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Themken: I had a look in an electronics shop today and oh my gogness 17" gaming laptops are expensive. There WAS however a money back drive where you can get up to like 8% of your money back from Microsoft if you did the paperwork. Maybe there is a similar deal in Poland? Getting €100-200 back cannot be a bad thing unless you are so rich that pocket change like that matters not. Personnally I can only dream about paying ~€2000 for a computer.
Sadly I don't recall any deal that would match your description...

I know, 1,5k USD is a lot money for me but it's still better to pay more once than buy a cheaper model more often.
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Themken: I had a look in an electronics shop today and oh my gogness 17" gaming laptops are expensive. There WAS however a money back drive where you can get up to like 8% of your money back from Microsoft if you did the paperwork. Maybe there is a similar deal in Poland? Getting €100-200 back cannot be a bad thing unless you are so rich that pocket change like that matters not. Personnally I can only dream about paying ~€2000 for a computer.
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zeffyr: Sadly I don't recall any deal that would match your description...

I know, 1,5k USD is a lot money for me but it's still better to pay more once than buy a cheaper model more often.
Since you understand the language, you should have a look here: https://www.microsoft.com/pl-pl/ but I cannot see anything that looks like it :-( I guess it is only in some countries.
Post edited May 10, 2017 by Themken
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JudasIscariot: My laptop's specs
Hey Judas. Can I ask about the price?
Thanks


(Don't tell me it was tree fiddy plz)
Getting a 128GB SSD is a bad choice because you will fit Windows on it and maybe a few games, but you will run out of room quickly!
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jeffkiwi: Getting a 128GB SSD is a bad choice because you will fit Windows on it and maybe a few games, but you will run out of room quickly!
It works if you only play 1-2 bigger games at any one time then uninstall and install the next one but there are already games out there that will not fit on that small an SSD next to a large OS.