Isn't it rather infamous that the intro can bug out in Skyrim before you even get control?

There was one that made the cart you are in bug out and it starts flying around. So you never get to Helgen and therfore never get out of the cart, if that is the one you are thinking of.

Hey now. People completed Oblivion on consoles. They ended up fine (skinwalkers).

True, but i did not played the mod ou mentioned, i single handed installed a lot of mods separately, i had 255 mods or something, and i had no issue playing vanilla, but i will try both ofc, i still need to try fallout 4 and fallout london, it was here for free if i remember (still new here)

It will be better just by virtue of not butchering the original vibrant, lustrous scenery of the original and not using Unreal slop 5

Recommended watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sBFzW17VaA

Damn, and I played through the whole thing! Why didn't anyone tell me I wasn't able to? :D

I'm sure you loved the absolutely broken level scaling and all the bugged out side-quests. Granted, if you stuck to the main quest line and not much beside that, it would have been less obvious what a mess the vanilla game is.

Oscuro's Overhaul wasn't by far the only mod that attempted to fix these problems, but it was by far the most popular.

Well, much of the art direction of the "vibrant, lustrous" (aka overly bloomed) scenery stemmed from hardware limitations of the time, but I tend to agree with you here after I've seen what the remaster has to offer. It definitely doesn't give off the same atmosphere as the original did.

Honestly, I never had much of an issue with the level scaling, it didn't bothered me quite as much as it apparently did many people. Maybe because it was the first Elder Scrolls game I played, and I just sort of rolled with it. And I was apparently very lucky when it comes to bugs, I did quite a fair amount of side questing, and I never ran into anything gamebreaking, or even major enough to stick in my mind, unlike in Fallout 3 (which indeed proved literally impossible to play without cracking a legal copy of the game :D) or even in New Vegas. But that's just my experience of course.

Don't get me wrong, I had issues with Oblivion, but they had more to do with the story (particularly the ending of the base game), or with quirks of the sandbox gameplay ("welcome, Champion wearing an armor worth more than our whole town, may I interest you in a menial task for 5 gold pieces?")

Anyway, I don't mean to argue or invalidate your experience or your preferred way to play or anything like that. I just felt like making a little crack at that very categorical statement of yours that just didn't reflect my experience with the game at all.

Fair enough. I guess my mind's spoiled now, having played both Vanilla and the OOO version, I can't imagine going back to vanilla for any reason, even if it has all the Unofficial Patches on top.

I mean, yes but the european countryside can look overly bloomed too IRL lol the point is, the team worked within those limitations and were part of their vision for the game, the remaster essentially destroyed it in favor of making everything dusty and desaturated

(which is a common issue with UE5, it just makes everything look dark, unless the devs go the extra mile to bright everything up and even then it doesn't look that good)