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thraxman: The main point ultimately was is it right to give control this technology to a foreign corporation.
And the Japanese SoftBank doesn't count why? =P
I'm not techy enough to know what this means, but it's not nvidia or consumers fault that AMD and Intel have offered zero real competition for years now. Hopefully Navi 2 and Intel's rumored gaming GPUs change that.
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thraxman: The main point ultimately was is it right to give control this technology to a foreign corporation.
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Mr.Mumbles: And the Japanese SoftBank doesn't count why? =P
It was, same issues were brought and the same rule party (The Conservatives) ignored them all in the idea of looking good for business if to look bad for the long term needs if their country's home tech industry.
Post edited September 14, 2020 by thraxman
As years go by, more and more technology is being concentrated in less and less hands.

And they call that market.
Post edited September 14, 2020 by Pouyou-pouyou
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thraxman: ARM own the patents for the chips and the hardware technology that runs most of the worlds smartphones and mobile computer devices. Concerns where rightly raised about allowing a foreign company with different ideals to control, plus Nvidea is big enough already for the anti trust lawyers to be looking at them closely. The main point ultimately was is it right to give control this technology to a foreign corporation.
Ah ok, so it is some kind of UK nationalistic thing. Welcome to free enterprise and globalization. :)

I guess we poor Finns felt similarly when Microsoft bought out Nokia Mobile Phones (I am glad they did, as they bought a seriously failing business at that point which would have gone bankrupt anyway in a few years), or when Nokia Networks CEO suddenly was a non-Finn (first an aussie, then an Indian!). Well actually I felt Rajeev Suri was quite a good CEO...

Oh! Oh! And the Swedes have also bought quite many of our companies! Thieves!
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StingingVelvet: I'm not techy enough to know what this means, but it's not nvidia or consumers fault that AMD and Intel have offered zero real competition for years now. Hopefully Navi 2 and Intel's rumored gaming GPUs change that.
As far as I know, gaming GPU's are not the major income source for nVidia, not even close. It is indeed a big amount, but as you said, they have all the market for themselves.
Fortunatelly for us, they didn't the same as Intel (for whatever reason) and keep bringing us new products.
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thraxman: The main point ultimately was is it right to give control this technology to a foreign corporation.
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Mr.Mumbles: And the Japanese SoftBank doesn't count why? =P
You could argue that the growing fondness of the US administration to use the tech sector to play out its trade wars makes a US company a bigger problem than a Japanese one.
Kind of funny watching some people accept nVidia claims that nothing will change for ARM licensors with this. You don't buy a company with ~2 billion in revenues (not even profit) for 40 billion (twice paper value) to keep its business model the same, and nVidia already had access to ARM IP via licensing- eg Tegra. This is designed to stop anyone else in the ARM ecosystem intruding on areas nVidia wants to monopolise, and they will inevitably start gouging licensees because... that's how you make a profit and there aren't viable alternatives.

Of course they aren't going to say that though, because if they did they wouldn't get regulatory approval.
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: That's not true at all. The 20 series flopped hard because it was barely better than the 10 series and most consumers were smart enough to realize that and not buy it.

That's also exactly why Jensen was pushing the 30 series very hard to his "Pascal friends" in the recent announcement for it. Because everyone knows it's the first actual legitimate upgrade that they've offered in about 5 years, and his 20 series presentation, wherein he pathetically shilled for that crap product, was total BS.
Yep, pretty much exactly. Funny to see people shouting about how the performance increase 3000 over 2000 is historic, when in fact it's just a correction for the historically poor improvement from 1000 to 2000- literally zero improvement in raster price performance, 2080 had same performance as 1080Ti at the same price. Puts the '80% price performance improvement' (pending independent verification) of 3000 series into perspective.
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thraxman: ARM own the patents for the chips and the hardware technology that runs most of the worlds smartphones and mobile computer devices. Concerns where rightly raised about allowing a foreign company with different ideals to control, plus Nvidea is big enough already for the anti trust lawyers to be looking at them closely. The main point ultimately was is it right to give control this technology to a foreign corporation.
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timppu: Ah ok, so it is some kind of UK nationalistic thing. Welcome to free enterprise and globalization. :)
Yea it really is but when the likes of China and Japan have used it (buy up successful foreign companies and refuse foreign companies equal rights in buying and access internally) to become world tech giants over the years its hard to fault it in away.
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ChrisGamer300: ...
Fully agreed, but I think what Nvidia actually purchased is a "patent pool" to be able to start with the CPUs in first place.