Posted October 31, 2017

Gersen
New User
Registered: Sep 2008
From Switzerland

HeartsAndRainbows
is the terror that flaps in the night
Registered: Jan 2017
From Other
Posted October 31, 2017

If any was checked, then yes, that is consent to use your data for marketing purposes. [...]
But again, I strongly disagree that consent to getting emails from GOG on specified events is the same thing as everything that could be vaguely defined as "marketing purposes". This was pushed on me and every other user who wouldn't want that to be happening to them without being asked about it beforehand.

Gersen
New User
Registered: Sep 2008
From Switzerland
Posted October 31, 2017


Alaric.us
Slava Ukraini
Registered: Feb 2010
From United States
Posted October 31, 2017
It seems that being outraged has long become a favorite sport on these forums.
Sometimes, when something is actually seriously broken, it may be warranted.
In this case, however, this generic rage makes no sense whatsoever. GOG knows pretty much nothing about you, compared to your bank, your phone company, etc. Even if they decided to sell all your info what exactly do they know? That you spent 600 hours playing HuniePop - Deluxe Edition? The email tied to your PayPal account? What country you log in from? Oh noes!
If you are worried about privacy, there are numerous other companies (which actually know a lot and might do damage) that you should be concerned about and spend your energy fighting. These wild accusations and conspiracy theories about GOG, along with angsty lamentations of them "losing their way and vision" are laughable in larger context.
GOG has problems. Sure. Mostly engineering problems that affect the forum and 3.5 people on it. (Probably 0.0000001% of their user base.) So far as I recall the forum bugs could actually affect other users were very few, such as the JS injection bug earlier this year. I'm not making excuses for their buggy web applications, but most of the hate they get for here is entirely misplaced.
Sometimes, when something is actually seriously broken, it may be warranted.
In this case, however, this generic rage makes no sense whatsoever. GOG knows pretty much nothing about you, compared to your bank, your phone company, etc. Even if they decided to sell all your info what exactly do they know? That you spent 600 hours playing HuniePop - Deluxe Edition? The email tied to your PayPal account? What country you log in from? Oh noes!
If you are worried about privacy, there are numerous other companies (which actually know a lot and might do damage) that you should be concerned about and spend your energy fighting. These wild accusations and conspiracy theories about GOG, along with angsty lamentations of them "losing their way and vision" are laughable in larger context.
GOG has problems. Sure. Mostly engineering problems that affect the forum and 3.5 people on it. (Probably 0.0000001% of their user base.) So far as I recall the forum bugs could actually affect other users were very few, such as the JS injection bug earlier this year. I'm not making excuses for their buggy web applications, but most of the hate they get for here is entirely misplaced.

HeartsAndRainbows
is the terror that flaps in the night
Registered: Jan 2017
From Other

Gersen
New User
Registered: Sep 2008
From Switzerland
Posted October 31, 2017
That's a question to ask elcook and Gog legal team.
I am no lawyer I don't know what they can and cannot use, maybe in EU/Poland they cannot simply ask for consent to send "e-mails" but need to ask for the more open ended "marketing communication", that I don't know.
I am no lawyer I don't know what they can and cannot use, maybe in EU/Poland they cannot simply ask for consent to send "e-mails" but need to ask for the more open ended "marketing communication", that I don't know.
Post edited October 31, 2017 by Gersen

Goodhunter12
Freeze your hate
Registered: Dec 2015
From South Africa
Posted October 31, 2017
I kind of agree with this, it is not as if GOG does not want to market stuff to you, the vague language is a little worrying but it does not seem nasty.

HeartsAndRainbows
is the terror that flaps in the night
Registered: Jan 2017
From Other
Posted October 31, 2017


In the section that talks about "personal data" it is specified "by Gog", not by "Gog and third parties".
You were making a good point that flew right by me because you didn't explicitly say it out loud. Sorry.

drmike
Why yes, I am a Major General
Registered: Jan 2012
From United States
Posted October 31, 2017

"This is the explanation they gave..."
Sorry if it still wasn't clear.

fishbaits
7/4/2012 - 9/5/2017
Registered: Apr 2012
From Ukraine
Posted October 31, 2017
Personally, think gog could drop themselves in the shit with this.
Laws state that they have to get permission to sign you up for these kinds of things in some countries, yet there's been 2+ have had the option set for them regardless, even after changing it back.
Hell, we all know how broken this site can be at times. Yesterday I again had to change the setting for Country displayed on side of forums (something that should've been removed ages ago!).
So, it's only a matter of time until you suddenly get spammed with email because "Oh noes, the site broke & set everyone to wanting them"...
Laws state that they have to get permission to sign you up for these kinds of things in some countries, yet there's been 2+ have had the option set for them regardless, even after changing it back.
Hell, we all know how broken this site can be at times. Yesterday I again had to change the setting for Country displayed on side of forums (something that should've been removed ages ago!).
So, it's only a matter of time until you suddenly get spammed with email because "Oh noes, the site broke & set everyone to wanting them"...

Lukaszmik
New User
Registered: Jul 2011
From United States
Posted October 31, 2017

I really dislike the direction GOG has been taking for quite some time now. It started precisely as an alternative, and often opposite, distribution platform to Steam.
I have frequently bought more expensive games on GOG precisely to support it, but if this is to become second Steam, I see no reason to.
Privacy should be another core tenant of GOG, but apparently we now live in a world where privacy of customers is not a legitimate business concern (hell, just read about the Equifax breach, and these guys were supposed to be super-security-conscious).
Vague legal terms merely invite abuse of trust. Companies change, or get bought out, and all that personal data sure is trending among big businesses. Fun fact - the "non-personally-identifiable-information" in reality... is. You can easily use hardware profile to track users across the intertubes, but the legal definition is about a decade, if not more, behind.
/rant

HereForTheBeer
Positive Patty
Registered: Oct 2009
From United States
Posted October 31, 2017

Seems to me that most folks are simply asking that the checkbox area clarify whether or not any customer info gets shared outside of gOg. That can be accomplished by adding the word "only". Nobody is asking for a major site overhaul for this one thing. At the least, they could add a direct link that takes the user to the Privacy Policy, since that's where the user can get the full details on what "processing of my personal data for marketing purposes by GOG" means.
https://support.gog.com/hc/en-us/articles/212632109-Privacy-Policy
/outrage, I guess

ssokolow
Linux Geek
Registered: Feb 2011
From Canada
Posted November 01, 2017

not frigthened enugh already?
Galaxy is the next gamespy network.. modern gameing is neither preserveable nor collectable..
if this ain't spok ya.. just spend more dosh... wherever
1. Check that network connectivity isn't listed in the system requirements before I buy
2. Test the game on an airgapped machine
3. If that fails, demand a refund for failing to work on a system listed as supported.
4. If it succeeds, do my usual offline backup routine in case GOG ever goes under.
(Similar to how, whenever I buy from the "3 for $15" PC games bin at the local used games store, it's done with the understanding that the owner will let me bring the games back and trade them for something else if they turn out to have an un-advertised online activation requirement or they're missing a CD key.)
Post edited November 01, 2017 by ssokolow

MajorrKillgore
New User
Registered: Aug 2015
From India
Posted December 28, 2021
low rated
gog have turned out to be scum.