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Justice - CES 2019 RTX Tech Demo
Post edited April 12, 2019 by fr33kSh0w2012
What's so BS about it?
I mean, that's Nvidia, king of the bullshot.
The video looks pretty neat to be honest. The only question is whether or not people will like it. Personally, I don't think that the cost of the card is worth the pretty graphics, considering you have to code highly advanced shaders for the card in mind.

Programming shaders that work interchangeably are extremly hard to make by using "regular" tech. Notice how the rain interacts with the water to understand what I mean. While I think that Brute Forced/Machine Learning ray tracing tech is the future, it always boils down to stupid marketing terms like "GTX" or "RTX" or whatever. I wonder how the microchips are designed in order to make that specific function work to interchange certain parts of the shaders. I'm very certain that you can't just code in this stuff interface-wise and put in inside a driver. It has to be made functional via hardware level processes, which is why previously, ray tracing was such a difficult thing to make when it came to not overloading the cpu and your gpu, who're already extremly different from one another design wise.

I don't know why OP is mad, nvidia is a money grabbing company just like any other that has a audience. I don't see the difference between nvidia and AMD if you take out the silly PR garbage about big tech companies and underdogs and focus on just how the technology works up to the interface level and make your own price-value judgments based on prices and benchmarks alone.
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paladin181: What's so BS about it?
RTX won't be ready for prime time for probably another 5 - 10 years. With the 20 series GPU launch, RTX is a totally useless feature that isn't worth paying a single penny for. Rather, RTX is a marketing gimmick trick to fool people into paying extortionary scam prices for their new GPU.
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Dray2k: The video looks pretty neat to be honest.
Sure, but so what?...propaganda videos always do. Such videos don't mean jack all, and most likely will have zero relation to what the actual reality will be when the consumer tries to replicate the same results on their home system in the real-world.
Post edited April 12, 2019 by Ancient-Red-Dragon
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: Sure, but so what?...propaganda videos always do. Such videos don't mean jack all, and most likely will have zero relation to what the actual reality will be when the consumer tries to replicate the same results on their home system in the real-world.
I wouldn't call a tech-promo video propaganda but I said similar stuff than you anyway. Though testing shaders it requires engines designed to make this stuff work so you need games that enable so the brute force GPUs can work their wonders with the shadertech, so to speak. I'm fairly sure that the result actually look prettier than what they show, considering we know how people already have fully established CPU/GPU based ray tracing in video games about two decades prior to the launch of the so called RTX, but the results were usually a CPU/GPU killing nightmare.

However, there is a possibility that I'm wrong here, considering if what nvidia said was true regarding to machine learning algorithms, which means that this tech is still on its way to really mature and I'm talking about around half a decade here.
Post edited April 12, 2019 by Dray2k
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paladin181: What's so BS about it?
Watch this I'm laughing so f***ing hard I'm almost choking!

both actually have RTX on yes the 1080 ti now has RTX capabilities!

here but seriously there is not much difference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n68s9I28AvY
Post edited April 12, 2019 by fr33kSh0w2012
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paladin181: What's so BS about it?
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fr33kSh0w2012: Watch this I'm laughing so f***ing hard I'm almost choking!

both actually have RTX on yes the 1080 ti now has RTX capabilities!

here but seriously there is not much difference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n68s9I28AvY
We've had Ray tracing for a very long time. The RTX can do it at playable frame rates.

I love the rtx and can't wait to see all that it does for games.

When I played with Ray teaching in to 1990s, I did lots of experiments with designing digital microscopes and telescopes. The light behaved correctly. I would love to see a game that bent light like that to solve puzzles or even just a realistic spyglass in a fantasy game or a game that have you the ability to design your own telescopes.

Light is neat and rtx can do it best. But it's certainly not everything.
On the 1080ti side I see CPU underutilization hence less FPS I believe from my own experience.

Nvidla lost money with 2000 rtx lineup and with crypto-mining bust. Now they are begging congress for US taxpayers money for as they said "innovation costs". And the gullible politicians will provide while bridges and roads are falling apart.
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: RTX won't be ready for prime time for probably another 5 - 10 years.
Yup, I don't see this becoming truly useful until at least another two generations of video cards when enough developers will actually make use of the features and the tech itself will have seen additional improvement.
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fr33kSh0w2012: what BS!

Justice - CES 2019 RTX Tech Demo
So... what's the BS part?
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fr33kSh0w2012: what BS!

Justice - CES 2019 RTX Tech Demo
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TerriblePurpose: So... what's the BS part?
I want GR00T back! :)
i think it looks ok, i mean it is a tech demo.
Your frames rate might tank but it works for the most part.
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NovumZ: On the 1080ti side I see CPU underutilization hence less FPS I believe from my own experience.

Nvidla lost money with 2000 rtx lineup and with crypto-mining bust. Now they are begging congress for US taxpayers money for as they said "innovation costs". And the gullible politicians will provide while bridges and roads are falling apart.
And when FED currency finally collapses, these vermin will be long gone -- as will the FED.
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fr33kSh0w2012: Watch this I'm laughing so f***ing hard I'm almost choking!

both actually have RTX on yes the 1080 ti now has RTX capabilities!

here but seriously there is not much difference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n68s9I28AvY
Ray tracing is available, but not very useful on the 1000 series. the 2000 series has dedicated hardware for it making it actually useable. Sorry, but they're not charging so much for the software capability, but rather the extra pieces of hardware that can process it.