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https://www.tolkiensociety.org/2018/04/the-fall-of-gondolin-to-be-published/

An opportunity to return once more to Middle-Earth is always welcome, but I wonder if there's going to really be any new material there? I refreined from buying Beren and Luthien, as I understand there is nothing new there if you already own Silmarillion and Lays of Beleriand (please correct me if I'm wrong, I'll run and buy it immediately).

Edit: it's actually the 30th of August bu t I can't edit the title :P
Post edited April 10, 2018 by Breja
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Breja: https://www.tolkiensociety.org/2018/04/the-fall-of-gondolin-to-be-published/

An opportunity to return once more to Middle-Earth is always welcome, but I wonder if there's going to really be any new material there? I refreined from buying Beren and Luthien, as I understand there is nothing new there if you already own Silmarillion and Lays of Beleriand (please correct me if I'm wrong, I'll run and buy it immediately).

Edit: it's actually the 30th of August bu t I can't edit the title :P
From the link, it could be surmised there's a significant amount of previously unpublished material. At least, it seems that way to me. I may have to grab this one when it's released.
If it's a more fleshed out telling of the story, then I'm in, as the Silmarillion was more or less written like an outline in a lot of areas, in my opinion. I enjoy re-reading it, because I enjoy world building and middle earth history, but it can be kinda dry reading otherwise.
I really do hope it;s great but we don't seem to have much luck with "previously unpublished".

Be they musicians or writers or whatever, there is usually a reason they made sure nobody saw or heard them. :P
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LiquidOxygen80: If it's a more fleshed out telling of the story, then I'm in, as the Silmarillion was more or less written like an outline in a lot of areas, in my opinion. I enjoy re-reading it, because I enjoy world building and middle earth history, but it can be kinda dry reading otherwise.
Most of the posthumous Tolkine books were cobbelled together from a pretty big amont of unfinished and rough draft only manuscripts that Tolkien left at his death in 1973.
There is a lot of debat about how much of the Simarallon is JRR Tolkien's and how much is his son Christipher Tolkien, who editied the book and had to choose from several different versions of the same material that Tolkien worte, and died before he made a final choice.
IMHO you need to approach these books as literary scholarship rather then expect a finished .polished story.
TO me, the "History of the Lord Of The Rings' is the most interesting of these books,since it is honest about being a work of literary scholarship, to where it often has three of four different drafts of the same scene, shoeing how the final scene in 'Lord of the Rings" evolved.
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tinyE: I really do hope it;s great but we don't seem to have much luck with "previously unpublished".

Be they musicians or writers or whatever, there is usually a reason they made sure nobody saw or heard them. :P
Sometimes the reason is that they keeled over before they could finish said stories.
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tinyE: I really do hope it;s great but we don't seem to have much luck with "previously unpublished".

Be they musicians or writers or whatever, there is usually a reason they made sure nobody saw or heard them. :P
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Maighstir: Sometimes the reason is that they keeled over before they could finish said stories.
THIS IS TRUE

We are getting a little off topic, but how do you feel about other writers coming in and finishing things when this happens?
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Maighstir: Sometimes the reason is that they keeled over before they could finish said stories.
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tinyE: THIS IS TRUE

We are getting a little off topic, but how do you feel about other writers coming in and finishing things when this happens?
Better to have the endings or extra stories and being able to read it if you wish than not to have said choice. Certainly, you are free to hate the guts of the third-party author that finished and trampled all over your hero's work, others are at the same time just as free to enjoy said additions (even if they are wrong in doing so).

I happily purchased the three final books to The Wheel of Time - that Robert Jordan had said would become a single book even if it became twice as thick as the earlier ones had been - and those were already between 600 and 800 pages.

Now, to be honest, I stopped reading a short while into the first of those three, for some reason, and now it's been so long that I have to refresh my memory of the previous 11, so I don't know if I actually will finish the series any time soon. That's 10 to 14 thousand pages, I'd rather read something I haven't already read... and now I feel as if I'm Bender, "I'm not reading that, summarise it to me in one word!"

I like having an ending, but if I forget what came before said ending, then it doesn't really matter much any more. At least beyond being able to see on the bookshelf that I have all of it.
Post edited April 10, 2018 by Maighstir
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Maighstir: Sometimes the reason is that they keeled over before they could finish said stories.
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tinyE: THIS IS TRUE

We are getting a little off topic, but how do you feel about other writers coming in and finishing things when this happens?
I think this will heavily depend on the circumstances. In general I don't like the idea of someones work being just handed over for someone else to finish and sell because $$$. These are books we're talking about, not painting your garage. Best to publish the thing as it is, unfinished, or not at all.

But if the work is mostly complete and detailed notes on what's missing exist and the work can be given to someone the departed author would approve of, someone who really understands what it is and isn't just a hired ghost writer, then yeah, I'm ok with it.
Post edited April 10, 2018 by Breja
After reading the article I can't help but think this looks like a re-imagination of Homer's Troy...

Curious how I'm just now realizing this, when I read this tale in the Silmarillion several times before.
Post edited April 10, 2018 by ElPrimordial
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Wow, Tolkien must be a very good writer if he can write new books faster than George R.R. Martin and be dead at the same time.
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Qwertw: Wow, Tolkien must be a very good writer if he can write new books faster than George R.R. Martin and be dead at the same time.
This is REALLY REALLY REALLY silly.

I can't stop laughing. XD
What a great news. New Tolkien material is always welcome :)
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Breja: https://www.tolkiensociety.org/2018/04/the-fall-of-gondolin-to-be-published/

An opportunity to return once more to Middle-Earth is always welcome, but I wonder if there's going to really be any new material there? I refreined from buying Beren and Luthien, as I understand there is nothing new there if you already own Silmarillion and Lays of Beleriand (please correct me if I'm wrong, I'll run and buy it immediately).

Edit: it's actually the 30th of August bu t I can't edit the title :P
Well did you know that Beren was originally a Noldor Elf, than a Human?

And that one of the antagonists for the story was litirally an Evil Cat working for Sauron named Tevildo, The Prince of Cats?

Pretty much a showdown between Tevildo and Huan was gonna happen in a classic stereotype of Dogs vs Cats (well hardly a showdown, more like Huan pretty much driving Telvido up in a branch scared of Huan)
Post edited April 12, 2018 by Elmofongo