Posted October 03, 2020

sanscript
Ltd. DeepSeeker
Registered: Jul 2011
From Norway

Navagon
Easily Persuaded
Registered: Dec 2008
From United Kingdom
Posted October 03, 2020
Back in the olden days there used to be more in the way of fragmented files. Now it's more a matter of ensuring that files that are frequently used together are all in the same place. So the only reason to defrag an SSD is much less likely to occur.

aCyborg
20 year old dweeb
Registered: Oct 2015
From United States
Posted October 03, 2020
1. Windows 10 only does NTSF and doesn't allow any different file systems
2. one unless you plan on having a linux drive then linux will make it own partitions
3.Idk
4. you can run games from both
5. Not really.
2. one unless you plan on having a linux drive then linux will make it own partitions
3.Idk
4. you can run games from both
5. Not really.

teceem
Ack Ack Ack!
Registered: Apr 2013
From Belgium
Posted October 03, 2020
False. It can read and format FAT32 just fine.
I don't believe the OS itself can be installed on a FAT32 disk, but that's something else.
Navagon: The only thing I'd add to the first post is that you don't need to defrag it very often if at all. Certainly don't allow a routine defrag to be scheduled. If you need to be sure, type defrag into the run bar and see what it says.
timppu: Yeah, I am unsure if Windows 10 really tries to automatically defrag SSDs as it (apparently?) does for HDDs.
My understanding is that "defragging" doesn't bring any advantage on SSDs. It is useful only in spinning HDDs where the mechanical head has to search for data all over the plate(s). Windows 10 never defrags an SSD; it's actually bad for its lifespan and unnecessary.
HDD= Defrag
SSD= https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trim_(computing)
I don't believe the OS itself can be installed on a FAT32 disk, but that's something else.


My understanding is that "defragging" doesn't bring any advantage on SSDs. It is useful only in spinning HDDs where the mechanical head has to search for data all over the plate(s).
HDD= Defrag
SSD= https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trim_(computing)
Post edited October 03, 2020 by teceem

sanscript
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From Norway

teceem
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Registered: Apr 2013
From Belgium
Posted October 03, 2020
The ext3/ext4 thing... Windows 10 doesn't do that, external software does. (if we're being anal about it ;-) )

sanscript
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From Norway

teceem
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Registered: Apr 2013
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GamezRanker
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Registered: Sep 2010
From United States
Posted October 04, 2020

Also I only want to archive atm and not backup(beyond some stuff which I have several copies of on various drives)...yeah, backup is better, but I cannot afford to go that route atm.

Sadly, though, I cannot afford such.
(I could barely afford the external, and mainly got it as juggling a bunch of flash drives was starting to become a hassle(and cost too much for the space gained))
Still, if I ever get a windfall i'll keep all that in mind.
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80 bucks plus tax for 2TB.....I could've gotten a lesser model with 5TB for 20 bucks more, but I wanted to make sure it was of good quality.

As for speed: It will mainly be for storage of installers and movies and shows and such, so speed shouldn't hopefully be much of an issue(?).
(I'll likely keep games on the main internal drive, which this new drive was bought to clear space on btw)

If the drive was over 2TB in size, then you wouldn't have an option anyway but to go with GPT, as MBR limit is 2TB.
EDIT: I guess this is relevant:
(First have to organize the files i'm moving over to it)


Post edited October 04, 2020 by GamesRater

aCyborg
20 year old dweeb
Registered: Oct 2015
From United States
Posted October 04, 2020
you can read it but can you can't install the OS on that file system I thought

GamezRanker
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Registered: Sep 2010
From United States
Posted October 04, 2020


(Also thanks for the save manager link....been lazy about it, but some day need to back em up more regularly like with other data)
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It is enabled....also when I have time I will check out those links as well, so thanks.
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Thanks to you as well for weighing in.
Post edited October 04, 2020 by GamesRater

faroot
New User
Registered: Jul 2010
From United States
Posted October 04, 2020

But perhaps I misunderstood the context, and you are actually talking explicitly about some hard drive.
Overall you got a lot of good advice and comments in this thread. The one post that said some factually incorrect things wouldn't lead to you changing your behavior/decisions anyway, and hence doesn't matter, other than underscoring that it's unwise to rely on a single source for information, which you already knew. Everything else seemed pretty good.

GamezRanker
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Registered: Sep 2010
From United States
Posted October 04, 2020
low rated


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To all: It turns out it is an HDD, albeit a nicer one.
With that in mind I ask the same quesitons in the OP post again, if anyone wants to weigh in.
Also....should I let windows defrag it or should I do that myself with a third party tool?
(I hear WIN10 does it well, but dunno if I should let it or use a third party tool when I need to defrag)
Post edited October 04, 2020 by GamesRater

Sachys
Woodie Guthrie's Guitar!
Registered: Dec 2011
From United Kingdom
Posted October 04, 2020
Just use it as it is.
DON'T PANIC!
Take a towel and some peanuts if needed.
It is not magic!
Edit: and never use any of the crapware thats waiting to be installed that comes on the drive.
DON'T PANIC!
Take a towel and some peanuts if needed.
It is not magic!
Edit: and never use any of the crapware thats waiting to be installed that comes on the drive.
Post edited October 04, 2020 by Sachys

GamezRanker
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Registered: Sep 2010
From United States
Posted October 04, 2020

DON'T PANIC!
Take a towel and some peanuts if needed.
It is not magic!
That said, I figured some more wizened users might have some tips and advice to share with me, including things I didn't know about or hadn't thought of....so I made the thread for that.
It seems my fellow goggers(goggites?) didn't disappoint....I got some good tips and links, and to those posting such I am thankful.

(I read about them being an optional DL i'll need to do when reading the short blurb on the drive itself)
Post edited October 04, 2020 by GamesRater