Posted May 22, 2024

BreOl72
GOG is spiralling down
Registered: Sep 2010
From Germany

Timboli
Sharpest Tool On Shelf
Registered: May 2017
From Australia

Haggis63
New User
Registered: Feb 2014
From United Kingdom
Posted May 22, 2024


1. Due to the unsatisfactory shop system. For example, I bought Fallout 1 and 2 twice just because it got a new ID number after it was reinstated in the store. This would actually have happened to me more often if I hadn't always checked my library since then, which is unnecessarily time-consuming and annoying.
2. If the advertised functions in the game actually differ completely from the facts or patch versions are not kept up to date, then this is definitely a reason for a return.
At least that's my opinion and my personal return rate is around 0.5%. I actually bought a few of the games again later after there was a patch for them or I found a technical solution to problems on the Internet.



Stop being antagonistic. This place is getting a s bad as Steam - only been there 19 years! Ever since friggin social media came on the scene everyone is a lawyer/reported/admin/moderator or a narcissist. Me,me I’m the most important person in this thread. It’s a joke…

timppu
Favorite race: Formula__One
Registered: Jun 2011
From Finland
Posted May 22, 2024

In one case GOG offered me a refund because the game wouldn't work on Windows 7 even thought 7 was listed as a supported OS, but since the game worked in Windows 10 anyway, I declined their offer and kept the game. I think it was probably Battlefleet Gothic Armada 1 or 2. I recall there was some discussion back then it didn't work for anyone in Windows 7 (so I tested it too), not sure if something has changed and now it works in 7 as it is still listed as supported on the gamecards, but I couldn't care less, I don't have a Windows 7 PC anymore ever since my old ASUS G75WV gaming laptop got broken and was replaced by a Lenovo Legion 5 Pro Windows 11 gaming laptop...

However, I am unsure why anyone would even go through that ordeal when the other option is just to pirate the game online. Or are there some kind of righteous pirates who refuse to actually pirate a game, but still want it for free?
I don't know why the OP asked for a refund and whether he has repeatedly asked for refunds in the past, but I guess that is irrelevant. Why not accept wallet funds though, or is this some kind of complicated money laundering operation?
Post edited May 22, 2024 by timppu

lupineshadow
New User
Registered: Apr 2012
From Japan
Posted May 22, 2024
This is my guess, but the answer is both obvious and not obvious. And obvious.
Obviously OP wants a refund because according to GOG's policy, he can purchase games, download them, play them, and refund them within 30 days, and everything is ok.
This is not obvious to GOG who promoted this policy exactly this way, but in the fine print, also said that they don't have to because people might abuse the system...surely not?
And yet this situation is obvious to everyone who was around at the time this policy was launched, most people said it was a bad idea, and sure enough, people legitimately buying games have to wait ages now for support while some other people clog up the system with these requests.
Bravo GOG.
Obviously OP wants a refund because according to GOG's policy, he can purchase games, download them, play them, and refund them within 30 days, and everything is ok.
This is not obvious to GOG who promoted this policy exactly this way, but in the fine print, also said that they don't have to because people might abuse the system...surely not?
And yet this situation is obvious to everyone who was around at the time this policy was launched, most people said it was a bad idea, and sure enough, people legitimately buying games have to wait ages now for support while some other people clog up the system with these requests.
Bravo GOG.

Hirako__
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Registered: Jun 2016
From Bulgaria
Posted May 22, 2024

I've seen plenty of posts like this one and usualy there is nothing really we can do. But I think it is reasonable to asume there is a problem but we don't know on which side. We got minimal information and some inconsistencies in the poster responses but it may be for the best if he does not share it all if he want his money back... Personally not the biggest fan of the refund policy exactly because of these kind of situations. He bought it here, then he bought it on steam - so the game(s) was clearly not the issue... Nobody really asked about the most important question which is how much time did u spend playing these games which I assume is the number 1 reason to not get a refund. But then how much time is too much and what if you play offline? And having a refund history is also a factor...
Post edited May 22, 2024 by Hirako__

BreOl72
GOG is spiralling down
Registered: Sep 2010
From Germany
Posted May 23, 2024

[...] the ones I want most refunded are BG3 and Age of Wonders.
I already own both games on Steam."
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/my_refund_hasnt_been_answered_for_more_than_6_days/post11
That tells me, that he owned the games (one a $66,- the other a $71,- game) on Steam first, and then bought them here a second time.
That's not exactly the kind of money you spend (a second time!) on games - whether you like them, or not.
Because that's a hefty sum.
Now, maybe he bought them in April, when both were discounted ($54,- and $16,24), but ~$70,- is still a hefty sum for games you already own.
Makes you think: "what's the dfference between the GOG version of a game and the Steam version of a game?"
Hm...let's see...
Ah: "DRM-freeness! - that's the difference."
The GOG version - one can download, then ask for a refund.
And then start gifting copies of the downloaded game, to one's brother, one's best buddy, one's second cousin...

botan9386
New User
Registered: May 2024
From United Kingdom
Posted May 23, 2024
I have only refunded one purchase on my previous account and was surprised at how smoothly the whole thing went. On one hand this is great for people who will respect that they no longer have legal ownership of any games that they have refunded (meaning that they delete them) but this system is so easy to abuse for bad actors.
Post edited May 23, 2024 by victor9386

Hirako__
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Registered: Jun 2016
From Bulgaria
Posted May 23, 2024
That is true. That is why I mentioned the refund history may come in play here too. But for BG3 specifically- isn't the game DRM free on steam too? Cant you do the exact same thing there - you can make a copy of your game folder to anyone - and then even refund it ... and on top of that I think the game is part of the family share program which means you can even legally share it with "others"(that are often not family so why bother getting it here too?
Post edited May 23, 2024 by Hirako__

kultpcgames
Stolzer Träger des 8. Dan in Gamewondo
Registered: Aug 2012
From Germany
Posted May 23, 2024

Stop being antagonistic. This place is getting a s bad as Steam - only been there 19 years! Ever since friggin social media came on the scene everyone is a lawyer/reported/admin/moderator or a narcissist. Me,me I’m the most important person in this thread. It’s a joke…
Of course I'm connected to GOG. I am a customer and even a long-time one. :)
And of course I also have the opportunity to help, I am in contact with GOG employees and we all here could definitely ask them with a PM.
And when people asked for help (whether to me personally or the community in general), it is certainly appropriate to find out whether you can or want to help at all. You should always be careful, especially on the anonymous Internet. The fact that purchases here on GOG were made by the thread creator even though the games are already in the library on Steam is definitely a reason to be skeptical.
If GOG is harmed by unfair intentions, which I "DO NOT" want to imply here, it harms all honest customers.
Maybe you should reflect on that again.

lupineshadow
New User
Registered: Apr 2012
From Japan
Posted May 23, 2024

Otherwise they would have waited for the GOG response without making a forum post.

As a result of buying many games and refunding few games, every game I've tried to refund, either on GOG or Steam has usually gone through without hassle.
I refunded Hades on Steam because it was a 95%+ reviewed game and despite it not being my thing I thought it might break the mould...it did not.
I refunded two Rimworld DLCs on GOG because it was cheaper to buy both the base game and those two DLCs on steam (not because of discounts, because of regional pricing), and because I didn't want to be locked into 150% price markup for future DLCs too.
The only refund I've had rejected was for the Halo bundle on Steam, which requires a third party login to a Microsoft account, and the account was accepted at first, and then required a phone number registered after;a few days otherwise it wouldn't log in.
That was horrific and I didn't buy anything on Steam for a year after that but the issue resolved itself when I tried a year later.
Post edited May 23, 2024 by lupineshadow

botan9386
New User
Registered: May 2024
From United Kingdom
Posted May 23, 2024


Otherwise they would have waited for the GOG response without making a forum post.


As a result of buying many games and refunding few games, every game I've tried to refund, either on GOG or Steam has usually gone through without hassle.
I refunded Hades on Steam because it was a 95%+ reviewed game and despite it not being my thing I thought it might break the mould...it did not.
I refunded two Rimworld DLCs on GOG because it was cheaper to buy both the base game and those two DLCs on steam (not because of discounts, because of regional pricing), and because I didn't want to be locked into 150% price markup for future DLCs too.
The only refund I've had rejected was for the Halo bundle on Steam, which requires a third party login to a Microsoft account, and the account was accepted at first, and then required a phone number registered after;a few days otherwise it wouldn't log in.
That was horrific and I didn't buy anything on Steam for a year after that but the issue resolved itself when I tried a year later.

LiefLayer
I'm darkness
Registered: Jul 2013
From Italy
Posted May 26, 2024
My only requested refund was legend of kay, it was listed as working on mac and, at that time, I was using a mac and it did not work.
It was a bug.
At that time the policy of gog was to refund games only if they were not working and they could not fix them.
So I got the refund.
I also requested a refund for the witcher 3 because the updated version got a drm.... and the download of the old version was not working.
They fixed the download of the old version so I decided to abort my request of refund.
I also requested a refund for Deus Ex MD, I don't remember if I got it before they removed the drm or not, but I bought it again after it was drm-free.
Outside of gog I requested a refund for one kickstarter game that was really late on the release date. I got it that time (I know they can keep the money if they want, that's why I don't usually crowdfund anything).
I usually do not request a refund, I only buy games that I want to play so I only ask for a refund if things are not working as expected, and I hate to request a refund.
People who buy games and ask for a refund just to play them for free for me are just stupid... expecially on gog... piracy for piracy no reason to buy/request a refund in the first place, just download it from the internet if you want to pirate the game anyway. I really cannot understand people like that.
It was a bug.
At that time the policy of gog was to refund games only if they were not working and they could not fix them.
So I got the refund.
I also requested a refund for the witcher 3 because the updated version got a drm.... and the download of the old version was not working.
They fixed the download of the old version so I decided to abort my request of refund.
I also requested a refund for Deus Ex MD, I don't remember if I got it before they removed the drm or not, but I bought it again after it was drm-free.
Outside of gog I requested a refund for one kickstarter game that was really late on the release date. I got it that time (I know they can keep the money if they want, that's why I don't usually crowdfund anything).
I usually do not request a refund, I only buy games that I want to play so I only ask for a refund if things are not working as expected, and I hate to request a refund.
People who buy games and ask for a refund just to play them for free for me are just stupid... expecially on gog... piracy for piracy no reason to buy/request a refund in the first place, just download it from the internet if you want to pirate the game anyway. I really cannot understand people like that.

BreOl72
GOG is spiralling down
Registered: Sep 2010
From Germany
Posted May 26, 2024

I really cannot understand people like that.

MrKrabsWallet
?YGogY?
Registered: Nov 2019
From United States
Posted May 26, 2024
Hahahahahahah....good one
(I don't mean re: the OP post)
(I don't mean re: the OP post)