Posted March 28, 2024

timppu
Favorite race: Formula__One
Registered: Jun 2011
From Finland

EverNightX
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Registered: Nov 2011
From Other
Posted March 28, 2024
I do not believe (at least in the case of Arch) you can request an update to particular point in time.
My suggestion is prior to a significant update you fear might be a problem, do a back up with rsync or similar:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Rsync#Full_system_backup
A restore is the exact same command with destination and source reversed.
But as long as you do a FULL system update you are not likely to have a problem.
On Arch you would run "sudo pacman -Syu"
My suggestion is prior to a significant update you fear might be a problem, do a back up with rsync or similar:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Rsync#Full_system_backup
A restore is the exact same command with destination and source reversed.
But as long as you do a FULL system update you are not likely to have a problem.
On Arch you would run "sudo pacman -Syu"

dtgreene
vaccines work she/her
Registered: Jan 2010
From United States
Posted March 28, 2024
Personally, I recommend starting with the more mainstream choices. In particular, I would recommend:
* For the distribution, if the computer is a few years old, debian stable is a good choice; it will almost never break on update. For newer computers, you might try Ubuntu or Fedora. I wouldn't stray too far from those mainstream choices. (In particular, I would advise avoiding Arch and Gentoo, at least until you know your way around Linux.)
* For the desktop environment, go with either Gnome or KDE.
* I would, for the most part, stick to the versions of software contained in the repository. If you need to install something not in the repository, don't install it system-wide, and don't do anything that requires sudo/root access when installing such software.
* For the distribution, if the computer is a few years old, debian stable is a good choice; it will almost never break on update. For newer computers, you might try Ubuntu or Fedora. I wouldn't stray too far from those mainstream choices. (In particular, I would advise avoiding Arch and Gentoo, at least until you know your way around Linux.)
* For the desktop environment, go with either Gnome or KDE.
* I would, for the most part, stick to the versions of software contained in the repository. If you need to install something not in the repository, don't install it system-wide, and don't do anything that requires sudo/root access when installing such software.

EverNightX
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Registered: Nov 2011
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Posted March 28, 2024

rtcvb32
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Registered: Aug 2013
From United States
Posted March 28, 2024

Actually in the past more than once i completely upended an upgrade because it made the computer slower, so i took the older release. But this was Redhat 4 days...

lupineshadow
New User
Registered: Apr 2012
From Japan
Posted March 28, 2024
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Post edited April 02, 2024 by lupineshadow

timppu
Favorite race: Formula__One
Registered: Jun 2011
From Finland

timppu
Favorite race: Formula__One
Registered: Jun 2011
From Finland
Posted March 28, 2024
I'm the guy who likes to keep everything in one partition, both in Windows and Linux. Simpler and more efficient space usage that way, I think.
Yeah I understand why for e.g. release upgrades keeping a separate home directory partition might make sense, but meh, I rather just backup everything from the /home if I am in doubt.
On critical servers at work, yeah it makes sense to have e.g. a separate /data or /opt or whatever mountpoint so that the root filesystem doesn't run out of space accidentally, but that is less of an issue for home users.
Yeah I understand why for e.g. release upgrades keeping a separate home directory partition might make sense, but meh, I rather just backup everything from the /home if I am in doubt.
On critical servers at work, yeah it makes sense to have e.g. a separate /data or /opt or whatever mountpoint so that the root filesystem doesn't run out of space accidentally, but that is less of an issue for home users.

wolfsite
Canadian
Registered: Sep 2010
From Canada
Posted March 28, 2024


I am a big proponent of dual-boot systems, running Windows and Linux side by side. Then any (hopefully temporary) hiccups on either side don't aggravate so much as you can always switch to the other side to do whatever you wanted to do. Especially if you are still trying to figure out the "right" distro for you.


Frankly, I increasingly had the same feeling with Lutris. It is supposed to be a simple "click a button and it does everything for you, and just play", but I constantly ran into odd problems with it and couldn't get games running on it.
In the end it felt "easier" to set up Windows games to run on plain Wine myself, at least I knew (most of the time) what I was doing and usually had some idea what the problem was about, as there were no extra layers there muddling it.

dtgreene
vaccines work she/her
Registered: Jan 2010
From United States
Posted March 28, 2024

documents, spreadsheets, installer files, music, videos, photos, special interest videos, fonts, game mods, ebooks, bookmark exports, etc. - basically any data that you want to be able to access from Windows or Linux, and that you want to be sure won't be affected even if you destroy one or more of your operating systems.
These days, I'd probably recommend exFAT if you need such a partition. (The former recommendation was fat32, but that doesn't support large files or partitions.)

If you're familiar enough with Linux enough to have an idea of what desktop environments there are and which ones work for you, then this advice is no longer applicable.
Post edited March 28, 2024 by dtgreene

timppu
Favorite race: Formula__One
Registered: Jun 2011
From Finland
Posted March 28, 2024


If you're familiar enough with Linux enough to have an idea of what desktop environments there are and which ones work for you, then this advice is no longer applicable.
My advice to Linux newbies would be: select the default desktop environment for the Linux distro that you are going to use because when you google for instructions that involve the GUI, they usually assume that is the DE you are using with that particular distro. (Most Linux instructions use shell so that they don't have to care what DE you are using, and it it simpler to just list needed commands, instead of instructing where to click in the menus etc.).
And, in some cases selecting a different DE where there is no prepared distro download for it means going through some extra hoops to change the DE for that non-default desktop environment. (For Mint there is a separate XFCE build so that is why I used it, instead of Cinnamon or KDE which have their own as well.)
That is why I used GNOME with Rocky Linux 9 even though I wasn't that familiar with it, as it was their supported default DE for it. Not because I felt GNOME is superior in some way to other DEs (in fact it wasn't, I recall there were some issues with e.g. desktop/font scaling which work better with many other DEs, in GNOME the scaling was restricted and/or caused blurry fonts etc. if you used it, some googling explained it was because of the old inefficient scaling method that GNOME used).
EDIT: I think it was about the (lack of) fractional scaling in GNOME, not sure what the status is now:
https://www.reddit.com/r/gnome/comments/11ekj8o/what_is_the_state_of_fractional_scaling_on_gnome/?rdt=60449
Post edited March 28, 2024 by timppu

vv221
./play.it developer
Registered: Dec 2012
From France
Posted March 28, 2024
If after a little while with Zorin OS you decide you really like the packages system (dpkg/apt), you can use tools like game-data-packager and ./play.it to generate native packages for your games.
./play.it has a thread on GOG forums that I follow more or less regularly: ./play.it, weekly news (the title is a lie, I do not update it on a weekly basis).
./play.it has a thread on GOG forums that I follow more or less regularly: ./play.it, weekly news (the title is a lie, I do not update it on a weekly basis).

lupineshadow
New User
Registered: Apr 2012
From Japan
Posted March 28, 2024
. . .
Post edited April 02, 2024 by lupineshadow

EverNightX
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Registered: Nov 2011
From Other
Posted March 28, 2024

KDE in particular is going to be very familiar in its interface to a Windows user. Gnome is not Windows-like. Its reduced customization and over simplified UI is more like an Apple product. No real desktop could be a rude shock for a Windows user too.
Post edited March 28, 2024 by EverNightX

vv221
./play.it developer
Registered: Dec 2012
From France
Posted March 28, 2024

My preference for NTFS over exFAT is maybe a throwback to the days of unstable hardware and software and many crashes. But NTFS has journalling while FAT does not, which makes it less likely that you will lose data in the event of something going wrong.