Notice: I know some mean well, but PLEASE do not go offtopic this time....I don't want to see this locked again... thanks in advance
(To mods: I asked most who went offtopic to stick to ontopic....I ask kindly that the thread be left open and any rare offtopic be ignored or deleted[if rule breaking] so I can reply to and converse with those who stick to ontopic.)

*Update below in post 15 from YT support*
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It seems ANY video(including likely some gaming let's plays as they are colorful and some feature non-M rated games) marked by YT or a creator as "for kids" cannot have comments, cannot be saved to play lists, cannot have info cards & MORE.

This is beyond nonsense.....so kids cannot play list their favorite videos and adults cannot playlist their favorite nostalgic media or maybe even some let's plays or adult animated content? And kids cannot say nice comments about videos they like or adults as well?

So what do y'all think(the ones who didn't reply yet to the old thread, that is)? Reasonable ideas or nonsense, or a bit of both?

(Thread marked as question once again so I can hand out an award to the best answer)

Gah....gonna post some links later and replies to posts from the other thread that were on topic....stay tuned, everyone.
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Some replies: - The video I had linked was "for kids" as the save to playlist function is grayed out if one hovers over it. And agreed, it'd likely be ok for much older kids to watch, but YT/Coppa seem to consider "kids" to be anyone under 13...so likely not mature enough for this sort of thing.

Also again, it keeps adults from saving/commenting nicely on content from their past or new content if they feel like it, and keeps kids/teens from saving favorite videos to play lists(at least on YT main...dunno about YT kids).

And lastly they seem to be marking a good number of videos clearly not for kids(under 13) as for kids...including very violent/lewd stuff(as Themken posted)....which makes no sense.

(Thanks for the comment btw, and for replying to the old thread.:))
========================================= Thanks for adding to the thread.....though those videos aren't marked for kids(as one can save them to playlists)....or maybe they are and YT changed the restrictions on "For kids" videos or removed some that were accidentally marked "for kids"? That'd be nice if either were true.
========================================= And the reverse happens as well....a bunch of videos clearly NOT for children get marked as such, and people cannot comment on them(authors of content use such comments to improve or get new ideas/etc) or save them to play lists(for future watching).
========================================= It isn't just conspiracy theories....many including actual lawyers and people knowledgeable on such things have shown how some of the added stuff is nonsense and not needed to comply with COPPA/protect kids.....also YT implemented the categories incorrectly(COPPA allows for one extra category, mixed audiences, which has less restrictions on it...they also implemented the rest of COPPA in a way seemingly meant to drive some honest creators who don't prey on anyone off the platform)...likely on purpose.

I mean how is keeping people from making playlists for videos or keeping videos marked "for kids: from playing in the mini player protecting children?

Too be honest Rager, its more that youtube is lazy and depends on algorithms too much now, and do very little one the spot reviewing of material.

True, but the specific things being restricted were chosen by youtube, and likely more to cover their own butts than to protect anyone.

To me what it boils down to that the content creator sets their channel's video to not suitable for kids and IF YouTube and Google honor that setting. Yeah it is very odd indeed that YouTube/Google would disable certain features like that.

Also from my understanding that YouTube disable content on videos done by actual Kids (rather on content done by older content creators for kids) I just set every video that I have done to not suitable for kids event thought there is no cursing of any nature it has to do with the nature of the topic

Also what about videos not suitable for Kids do they have the playlist creation feature disabled by any chance?

I know of one YouTuber who is abusing the system he has his videos marked for kids but he has adult themes in them such as the Dark Web for example.

There's a way around the Playlist restrictions, just Like the video, then go into your Liked Videos tab and select Add to Playlist and you can add it to any Playlist you want without restriction even if it was marked by COPPA.

YT has said or alluded that they would mark videos/channels as "for kids" if they met certain criteria(or even whole channels if need be) if they(or more likely their bots) felt a channel owner had marked them incorrectly(accidentally or on purpose).

So what one sets their content at is academic as YT can sadly change that marking/categorization if they feel the need to.They are doing it even on content made/posted by adults for other adults...both nostalgia clips and even mature content like south park clips(which I linked in the first thread).They aren't supposed to, but YT seems to be using a bot and anything animated the bot notices seems to get marked "for kids" and a bunch of stuff(like saving it to play lists) can and does get blocked/deactivated.

As said above, some raunchy south park clips got comments turned off and play list saving ability blocked.Well then they should be looked into...this isn't about them, but more the stupid restrictions YT is putting on anything they deem "for kids".

=======================================================Nice find....hopefully they won't notice and stop that as well...thanks for the tip. :)

Well in my mind that is IS a problem and he should be looked into but it has everything to with YT. It could lead to even more stupid restrictions.

Agreed, they are a bit of a problem, but I am trying to focus on YT's(the company's) bad or dumb actions here, not that of some users.

The problem is they likely aren't restricting things based on those few people who intentionally mislabel content, but likely to avoid being fined again/to get some creators they dislike off of YT/to line their own pockets.

If YT wants to stay the same or grow(in terms of user base and content) they need to be fair in making rules, and not make rules just to cover their own behinds and to spite those on the platform they dislike.....else more will likely leave to alternate sites over time(All they'd need to do is to pull a "tumblr" and make one very bad move and drive most of their users off site and YT would be as good as a ghost town within a short time).

Fair enough, but their dumb bot has hit VERY kid unfriendly content(like MLP cupcakes HD and south park clips with very nasty stuff in them) as "for kids"....I dunno if trusting their bot to mark entire channels would be so good(though they likely will be doing that if they haven't as of yet). It COULD work if they allowed channel owners to dispute the decision(if wrong), though.

Also an aside: COPPA allows for mixed audience category, yet YT "oddly" didn't choose to implement it....such a marking could easily be used on such borderline content/channels, for starters, and help people who make mixed contnt from having to confine themselves to one "box".

Not channels, user accounts for viewing the content...

So filter ads based on account type? Sounds like a good idea, then.....btw isn't that what the semi-dropped(by YT) YT KIDS was/is for? :|

Essentially.

Then it makes one wonder why YT isn't using it to it's fullest potential and inconveniencing the rest of us.....surely it's not for money? ;)

UPDATE: This is the reply(likely a form one) YT support sent me when I replied on these dumb moves on their COPPA rollout video:

"We understand the adjustments you'd have to make when interacting on the platform – however, the features we turned off (miniplayer, playlists, notifications, comments, etc.) rely on user data; and In compliance with COPPA / other similar laws, we have to limit the system's collection & use of these data when watching content that's made for kids. "

Yup, instead of doing as Paladin suggested(blocking such on kid's accounts only) they block it for ANYONE on ALL videos they think are for kids.....talk about back arsewards.