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I am thinking of getting some cheap ($99 or so) computer to have as a back-up (especially sinch I should probably take my main computer in to have the cooling fixed), and am wondering whether there are any trade-offs to these two main options. (Note that this computer will likely have only 2GB of RAM and 32GB of solid-state storage; I plan on replacing Windows with Linux in order to have a decent amount of space to work with.)

Expected uses:
* Low-end indie games (could even move this to another TV to show the game to others); could also use it for emulation, particularly for things a Raspberry Pi couldn't handle comfortably, like bsnes
* Compiling software (like buildroot) without risking having my main computer overheat (it shut down once when I was doing that and watching video at the same time)
* Playing around with system configurations that I wouldn't want on my main computer; also trying new software before I run it on my main computer (particulaly new OS versions)

So, is there any difference in these two computers? Do the PC sticks have more overheating issues than the Mini PCs, or does it not really matter? Any other non-obvious difference here?
I only want to say this: Ensure the processor supports the things you want from it, like SSE and whatever they are called. Was quite the shock when a new mini PC could not install Skype due to lacking support for SSE2.
I would at least go into the $200-$300 range. There are some very solid Intel NUCs, Zotac Zbox, and etc. in that range. As Themken said though, make sure the processors has the support you need. Splurging up to an i3 versus using Atom or N Intel processors may save you a headache.
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Themken: I only want to say this: Ensure the processor supports the things you want from it, like SSE and whatever they are called. Was quite the shock when a new mini PC could not install Skype due to lacking support for SSE2.
Honestly, the CPU in the ones I'm looking at, the z8350, seems to support most of the modern processor features (it was apparently released in 2016), so I don't think that's likey going to be an issue.

Also, I am planning on running Debian, which generally maintains support for older CPUs, and don't expect to be running any proprietary software other than DRM-free games on it. In particular, I will not be running Skype on it (and, if a particular piece of software is incompatible, I have a bigger machine I could use, anyway).

In other words, I don't think this will be a problem.
If you're going in the $200-300 range, then just get a Chromebook, I think that they can run Linux if you really want to. But, as an emergency they're fine.

Otherwise, the Raspberry Pi 3b+ does a perfectly fine job of emulating things. IMHO, if this is just going to be a back up, then dealing with regular SNES emulation rather than super accurate BSNES emulation is probably a reasonable compromise.
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WryFlavoredBread: I would at least go into the $200-$300 range. There are some very solid Intel NUCs, Zotac Zbox, and etc. in that range. As Themken said though, make sure the processors has the support you need. Splurging up to an i3 versus using Atom or N Intel processors may save you a headache.
The thing is, this isn't going to be a primary machine, and I'd rather save money that could be later spent on making my next computer better, or spend it on other things.

(Also, I note that the Atom uses less power than an i3 would; this matters, particularly on a fanless system, which is one reason you see Atoms on low-end x86 devices like this one.)
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hedwards: Otherwise, the Raspberry Pi 3b+ does a perfectly fine job of emulating things. IMHO, if this is just going to be a back up, then dealing with regular SNES emulation rather than super accurate BSNES emulation is probably a reasonable compromise.
Problem with the Raspbery Pi is that it has an ARM CPU, and indie games are, as a rule, only compiled for x86, and therefore won't run on the Pi.
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dtgreene: I am thinking of getting some cheap ($99 or so) computer to have as a back-up (especially sinch I should probably take my main computer in to have the cooling fixed), and am wondering whether there are any trade-offs to these two main options. (Note that this computer will likely have only 2GB of RAM and 32GB of solid-state storage; I plan on replacing Windows with Linux in order to have a decent amount of space to work with.)

Expected uses:
* Low-end indie games (could even move this to another TV to show the game to others); could also use it for emulation, particularly for things a Raspberry Pi couldn't handle comfortably, like bsnes
* Compiling software (like buildroot) without risking having my main computer overheat (it shut down once when I was doing that and watching video at the same time)
* Playing around with system configurations that I wouldn't want on my main computer; also trying new software before I run it on my main computer (particulaly new OS versions)

So, is there any difference in these two computers? Do the PC sticks have more overheating issues than the Mini PCs, or does it not really matter? Any other non-obvious difference here?
A bit more than you want to spend, but double the specs. I have one of these, it's a little marvel.

https://www.amazon.com/Beelink-Windows-x5-Z8350-Processor-1000Mbps/dp/B07KNBTFJC/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_2?keywords=SeeKool+BT3+Pro+Mini+PC&qid=1558538451&s=gateway&sr=8-2-fkmr0
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Dalthnock: A bit more than you want to spend, but double the specs. I have one of these, it's a little marvel.
I'm not interested in double the specs (which would put it on par with my laptop).

Does it have any thermal issues under heavy load?

Anyway, back to the original question: Does it make more sense to get a mini PC of that sort, or is it better to get a PC stick with the same specs?
The bigger the form factor the better the cooling usually.
Unless you are cost or space constrained it would make more sense to go for a mini PC until you stick to lower end CPUs today's mini PCs are decent machines.
I would put together something in the mini ITX form factor myself tho.

The general advice here is to read reviews from trusted sites and then buy.
If you want to fiddle with VM then you better get at least 16GB RAM, for emulation I'm honestly can't help you.
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Dalthnock: A bit more than you want to spend, but double the specs. I have one of these, it's a little marvel.
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dtgreene: I'm not interested in double the specs (which would put it on par with my laptop).

Does it have any thermal issues under heavy load?

Anyway, back to the original question: Does it make more sense to get a mini PC of that sort, or is it better to get a PC stick with the same specs?
Suit yourself, but 2GB of RAM and 32GB drive space won't last you long - that's assuming they're even good enough today.

I don't know about heavy load. I only use it to watch videos. I have yet to try it, but I assume Mega Drive/SNES/MAME emulation won't be an issue at all.

I also don't know about PC sticks. I suppose, if you want a pocket computer, they'll be better. Mini PCs are really small, but you still have to carry at least two cables around. It's really up to your needs.
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Judicat0r: If you want to fiddle with VM then you better get at least 16GB RAM, for emulation I'm honestly can't help you.
Actually, I've run VMs with only 2GB RAM; the key is to run mainly low-requirement systems in the VM, such as command-line Linux distros, which for me is generally good enough (particularly since my main use is experimenting with things I wouldn't do on my main computer).

Also, my main computer has 16GB of RAM, so I can use it to run bigger VMs if need be.

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Dalthnock: Suit yourself, but 2GB of RAM and 32GB drive space won't last you long - that's assuming they're even good enough today.
For RAM, can you name any indie game that would run on an Atom, but which needs more than 2GB of RAM?

For disk space, I will be saving a lot of space by removing Windows (something I suggest doing on every machine with that "little" RAM), and if I want to run a game that uses a lot of space but compresses well (like Hollow Knight), I can use squashfs.
Post edited May 23, 2019 by dtgreene
If you're going to be doing emulation I'd suggest MiSTeR being that it's an very strong FPGA and has quite a bit of support amongst the community.
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Sarang: If you're going to be doing emulation I'd suggest MiSTeR being that it's an very strong FPGA and has quite a bit of support amongst the community.
Unfortunately, that's not Google-able, as Google ignores case in its searches. Care to post a link so I could find out more?

(Also, for purposes of this topic, I am looking for something that's more like a standard x86 PC, while I try to figure out where I put my Rasbperry Pi.)
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Sarang: If you're going to be doing emulation I'd suggest MiSTeR being that it's an very strong FPGA and has quite a bit of support amongst the community.
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dtgreene: Unfortunately, that's not Google-able, as Google ignores case in its searches. Care to post a link so I could find out more?

(Also, for purposes of this topic, I am looking for something that's more like a standard x86 PC, while I try to figure out where I put my Rasbperry Pi.)
Here's the official wiki: https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/Main_MiSTer/wiki
Here's another link as well: https://www.retrorgb.com/mister.html