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Krypsyn: No, my purpose was most certainly not to force you to do more work. I think I had a purpose, anyway! However, I try not to get too involved in my own life...
Nevermind me then. I am sorry.
Post edited July 06, 2015 by Vitek
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trentonlf: Why do you keep suggesting there is a double voter?
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Vitek: It is Day 1 now. It will end when I say so or when lynch is achieved.

With 14 alive it usually takes 8 to lynch.
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Bookwyrm627: Doesn't matter. His last vote on RWarehall overwrites everything else; you don't have to unvote first in this game.

Which might help cover for a double voter, come to think of it.
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trentonlf: Why do you keep suggesting there is a double voter?
I think I've only suggested it twice now. And I suggest it because I see the potential for one.

So, what shall we talk about, Trent? Roles are out (fine), PMs are out (fine), erratic posting to see how people respond is out (fine). You've even ignored the Cheers bar that you opened; I never did get my drink.

So far:
You've jumped on yogsloth for bringing up PMs.
You've jumped on me for leaving open one interpretation of one of my statements.
You've asked Krypsyn about one of his vote hops.
You've asked bler a question about the guy that left town in a huff. Are you probing his PM? It does follow up with a little speculation about the guy that left town.

Were you planning to do anything that doesn't directly respond to something someone else did first?
Is it just me, or does sitting around waiting for other players to make the first move provide scum with a big opening?
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Bookwyrm627: Is it just me, or does sitting around waiting for other players to make the first move provide scum with a big opening?
It is probably the wisest move as scum (and as some other less anti-town roles), but I can never bring myself to be that patient, regardless of role/alignment. In other words, I think his actions, or lack thereof, have at least as much to do with his personality as with anything directly game related.
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Krypsyn: but I can never bring myself to be that patient, regardless of role/alignment.
Indeed. All these videos aren't going to post themselves!
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yogsloth: ...
Not sure how that specific quote bears the answer. After some re-reading I'm more inclined to believe Wyrm has the OP in mind when speaking of potential double voter or any kind of vote manipulation. I didn't notice this at first but on a following passthrough it was easier to see.

@Wyrm, if that's what you have in mind - nice catch.

While on the topic Krypsyn had another voting frenzy in which a few others noted the improper chain. Krypsyn corrected it afterwards before a new vote count from Vitek. There was a point where a potential double vote on RW and agentcarr was on, but that was wiped shortly after before any official data was announced. Vitek did quote only the first voting section when he said zero changes were present, so that is most likely a bunch of bs, but still.

Dammit, now I started to come up with my own conspiracy theories... Thanks a bunch, Yog and Wyrm!
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bler144: All these videos aren't going to post themselves!
Inorite?

We can't have allusions becoming illusions, can we?

Gasp!
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trentonlf: Why do you keep suggesting there is a double voter?
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Bookwyrm627: I think I've only suggested it twice now. And I suggest it because I see the potential for one.

So, what shall we talk about, Trent? Roles are out (fine), PMs are out (fine), erratic posting to see how people respond is out (fine). You've even ignored the Cheers bar that you opened; I never did get my drink.

So far:
You've jumped on yogsloth for bringing up PMs.
You've jumped on me for leaving open one interpretation of one of my statements.
You've asked Krypsyn about one of his vote hops.
You've asked bler a question about the guy that left town in a huff. Are you probing his PM? It does follow up with a little speculation about the guy that left town.

Were you planning to do anything that doesn't directly respond to something someone else did first?
Is it just me, or does sitting around waiting for other players to make the first move provide scum with a big opening?
Here's the thing, I don't mind a discussion about roles. What I don't like is for someone to talk about their PM or a role they have. If I had an issue discussing roles would I have not jumped all over Iber when he talked about a possible vigilante in the game?

If everyone came out of the gate with a role claim that breaks the game, that is my issue. Later in the game it's inevitable someone will have to discuss a role they have, especially investigative ones. But, that is later in the game when someone has had a chance to actually investigate.

I was not questioning you about bringing up the possibility of a double voter because I was upset, I was genuinely curious as to why you suggested it. Yogs pointed out the "usually" comment by Vitek (I almost pointed it out my first post of the game), and I was just wondering if that's what led you to a thought of a double voter.
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dedoporno: Vitek did quote only the first voting section when he said zero changes were present, so that is most likely a bunch of bs, but still.
Acually, he quoted both my screwed up list and my correction. He just put them all in one grouping.

So, let's test your conspiracy, shall we?

Vote: dedoporno

Vote: Rwarehall

Tertiary Adjunct to Unimatrix 01: Jeri Ryan

This should result in my vote reaming unchanged, unless i am allowed more than one vote. Also, it may result in Borg-O-Boobs, which can't be a bad thing.
Nah... that would be too easy. Who wants it the easy way?

Unvote: dedoporno
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Krypsyn: Nah... that would be too easy. Who wants it the easy way?

Unvote: dedoporno
I think your OCD kicked in and you couldn't stand to not Unvote Dedo ;-)
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trentonlf: I think your OCD kicked in and you couldn't stand to not Unvote Dedo ;-)
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trentonlf: I think your OCD kicked in and you couldn't stand to not Unvote Dedo ;-)
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Krypsyn: !
Overruled!
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dedoporno: While on the topic Krypsyn had another voting frenzy in which a few others noted the improper chain. Krypsyn corrected it afterwards before a new vote count from Vitek. There was a point where a potential double vote on RW and agentcarr was on, but that was wiped shortly after before any official data was announced. Vitek did quote only the first voting section when he said zero changes were present, so that is most likely a bunch of bs, but still.

Dammit, now I started to come up with my own conspiracy theories... Thanks a bunch, Yog and Wyrm!
If you run off of what Vitek quoted, then RWarehall would have been double voted (requiring a change to the vote count). Vitek took Krypsyn's corrections to the initial voting chain and tacked them onto the end of the first large vote chain, so agentcarr was unvoted by the time Vitek posted. Assuming Vitek saw the double vote on RWarehall that resulted, then Krypsyn, at least, is not able to double vote the same player by casting two votes in the game thread in this fashion.

Because technically correct is the best kind of correct!

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trentonlf: Here's the thing, I don't mind a discussion about roles. What I don't like is for someone to talk about their PM or a role they have. If I had an issue discussing roles would I have not jumped all over Iber when he talked about a possible vigilante in the game?

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I was not questioning you about bringing up the possibility of a double voter because I was upset, I was genuinely curious as to why you suggested it. Yogs pointed out the "usually" comment by Vitek (I almost pointed it out my first post of the game), and I was just wondering if that's what led you to a thought of a double voter.
Ah. I stand corrected on the role talk then, that is a finer distinction than I had been making. I'd been wondering why you might be speculating with him about the disgruntled dude returning as a vigilante.

I was wondering about the double vote question because dedo already asked it (twice?), and I already answered. I suppose I could have used more words to make my answer clearer.
Yes, the "usually" from Vitek is what makes me wonder about a double voter. Alternatively, someone might be able to change the number of votes need to lynch, or do something else that monkeys with the lynch.
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trentonlf: Overruled!
Dangit. :(

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Bookwyrm627: Assuming Vitek saw the double vote on RWarehall that resulted, then Krypsyn, at least, is not able to double vote the same player by casting two votes in the game thread in this fashion.
Oh, why do you have to ruin my fun? I was really hoping that I could start a WIFOM spiral. It is good that you have proven, once and for all, that there is no way I could ever, not in a million years, cast two votes in this game. I believe everyone, myself included, can now breath a collective sigh of relief. :)