Vnlr: My case, apperantly, is a peculiar one (according to others); I've never had any kind of musical education, but through Beethoven I wound up listening to the sutff I listen too.
One can kinda understand how you could go from Beethoven to enjoying weird modern music because one can easily go from Beethoven to Liszt who was way ahead of his time with some of his stuff, take this for example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=In0k3aQzbXA (you say you don't like piano so perhaps your progression went a different path, I'm just rambling here)
And from Liszt one can go to Wagner and from there on it gets interesting because from Wagner you can go in various directions, I'm surprised you mentioned Stravinsky instead of Schönberg because according to the kind of music you like, I would have expected you to be more on Team Schönberg than on Team Stravinsky - in their epic 1 on 1 rap battle that is ;)
I guess you like both, I'm more limited in my taste in that I do recognize Schönberg's skill but it's just not music to my ears.
Going from Liszt to Bartok would be interesting as well, I played the classical guitar a lot as a youngster so I had stuff from Beethoven, Liszt and Bartok on my menu - in that order interestingly. And from there it went to Heitor Villa-Lobos and things get quite alien space interesting, feels quite abstract but it's still harmonious music and not Schönberg style spasms.
I'm more miffed about newer guys like Ligeti, it works well for movies like in 2001 Space Odyssey but when I have to suffer compositions like the following, I'm out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmCmrZfybPQ&list=PLxauF8Y6mJgJM7K7vS-gC957tECwCQVzG Regarding 2001 Space Odyssey, I think Strauss has much more impact than Ligeti, at least that's how I feel about the score. You just can't beat the Blue Danube scene, I've seen it dozens of times and think it's one of the greatest uses of classical music in film ever, along with Wagner Ride of the Valkyries in Apocalypse Now.
Vnlr: I would like to know what you think of these then? ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZuDlAtf7Y4 I'm not familiar with Vermeulen, I'm sure he knows his stuff but this doesn't do anything for me, there's no unity and it sounds like when you're playing two unrelated tracks at the same time. A bit like when a fly is buzzing around in my bedroom and I'm doing the dishes in the kitchen, ok not that bad but what I'm trying to say is that this isn't enjoyable music to my ears. Might work as film music but not as a cohesive composition that I listen to in one piece. The build up takes too long and then doesn't release enough power, another reason why I would use this more as background music fragments for a game/movie rather than sit through it at a concert.
To contrast this piece with an example you already know, Rachmaninoff's Isle of the Dead is a similar piece that slowly and very effectively builds tension but the pay off is much greater with Rach's piece imho, the explosion 8 minutes into this is nothing short of magnificent, and it's one of my all time favorite works of any composer & any period:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N10YZ2Sk3Kg Vnlr: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgn-OlLuldU I mainly admire Leifs for the pure, throbbing power he is able to confer with his music. He ussualy starts of somewhat gently, but as the mighty forces in the geysir reach a critical point, so does the music, causing a beautiful, overwhelming cacophony of intertwined noises from the musicians at work.
This I like a lot better than Vermeulen. I didn't know Leif either so another new discovery, thanks. Sounds a bit like he's trying to emulate Holst's Saturn from The Planets - of course that's too tall an order to fill and I think Leif doesn't have the same depth, unlike Vermeulen he has unity but there's still something missing. I do think however that Leif's composition would not only work as film/game music but I'd even enjoy it in concert so don't think I'm bashing it, I sometimes like music that has simplicity, it all depends on my mood and how tired/not tired I am. When I'm tired, I'll even resort to to easy listening stuff like those popular Italian New Classics composers, e.g.
Roberto Cacciapaglia. Doesn't challenge the brain, easy to digest and one can do other things while listening. I can't listen to the likes of Rachmaninoff and work because his work commands my full attention.
I can't bear to listen to this one in full length, it's just not music to me, more like background soundscape material. This would be ideal for games like Icewind Dale or the icy dungeons in Act V of Diablo 2 but to listen to this without anything else going on, not my cup of tea.
Here's a badass piece by Sibelius that (imho) does everything John Luther Adams tries to do in Dark Waves but Sibelius shows him how to roll the joint properly, to put it in flowery terms:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4fwuOaHtKA Vnlr: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-CKVm8MXxU And I like this one, which I have only discovered today, because it does not evoke my imagination in any way (which, for example music from my favorite period, late romanticism, does a lot), but simply because it is, and yes, this will sound rediculous, pleasing on some level to listen too, or at the very least intriguing for the ears
You do have a most peculiar ear, I must say! To me, this sounds like when the orchestra is tuning their instruments before a concert, nothing more I can get out of this. Quite nervous and eccentric which aren't bad properties but if I want eccentric I'd rather listen to something like this here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49dEdhsNpKE Anyway, those were interesting suggestions and I made an earnest attempt to broaden my horizon but I think only Jon Leifs makes the cut into my playlist, the other ones are too weirdish for me, guess I have more conservative tastes.
Compositions like the following ones are modern enough for my taste, I even consider Chopin modern so clearly I'm not an ultramodernist :)
Dmitri Shostakovich : Symphony No. 9 in E flat major, Op.70 Scriabin Etude Op 8 No 12 Chopin: Etudes Op.10 & 25 The Shostakovich symphony is hysterical, in my mind I'm seeing Road Runner chased by Coyote and then Coyote walks over the cliff but doesn't fall down but keeps running through the air, that's what's going on inside my head when I lsiten to this.
And since you don't like piano, here's some Rachmaninoff without piano for you, another one of my favorite pieces:
Rachmaninoff: Vespers: Now Let Thy Servant Depart