Posted November 25, 2017

dnovraD
2023-08-14: Remember the Spaces!
Registered: Jul 2012
From United States

SeeJayGamer
Insert Coin
Registered: Dec 2013
From United States
Posted November 25, 2017
I've worked in retail far too long and I must confess, I've also been an intentionally "stupid" customer on a few rare occasions. A pet-peeve of mine is when a store is too lazy to open both doors for a double-door entrance. If they want to make a point of having a one-door policy, they should at least put a sign up telling customers not to use the door that is locked.
So, in the case of these merchants, if the door is locked and it's the first door i try, I'll give it a healthy, vigorous shake as if the door is stuck. I guess getting older, I don't care if I'm being an ass.
Anyway, it was at a specific store that I did this, that upon entering and talking to the employee at the desk, I complained that the door was locked. She simply explained that since they have 2 doors, they didn't see any reason to unlock both. (I guess left-handed people aren't worth unlocking a door for.) I replied that I hope i remember which one is locked on my way out. She didn't say anything until I was leaving as she then politely reminded me to not forget that the door was only open on the one side. I would have shook my cane at her, but I'm not that old, yet.
So, in the case of these merchants, if the door is locked and it's the first door i try, I'll give it a healthy, vigorous shake as if the door is stuck. I guess getting older, I don't care if I'm being an ass.
Anyway, it was at a specific store that I did this, that upon entering and talking to the employee at the desk, I complained that the door was locked. She simply explained that since they have 2 doors, they didn't see any reason to unlock both. (I guess left-handed people aren't worth unlocking a door for.) I replied that I hope i remember which one is locked on my way out. She didn't say anything until I was leaving as she then politely reminded me to not forget that the door was only open on the one side. I would have shook my cane at her, but I'm not that old, yet.

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Ltd. DeepSeeker
Registered: Jul 2011
From Norway
Posted November 25, 2017
drmike:
"*sigh* Usually no. One of the forums I used to help out on, it was something like 90% never returned when we had threads like this. They either didn't come back or they forgot about their original thread and started a new one. "
This. You can almost always tell by the quality of the question of how much they really care and/or their sincerity.
On-topic:
I had a women calling in from a some corporate company years ago from NZ or UK, don't remember. As we had a contract on literally everything, from lines, SaaS, materials, services on the spot et al., (that's reversed insourcing or outsourcing when we call local tech company?) she just dumped the best way one could ask; "Can u fix my computer it doesn't work".
First I needed to asses the situation before I called local tech or line company, or if it was on our servers....
In short, I had to actually go over several questions and minutes later (she was actually quite vague), she had to go. I said ok, let me call you up the morning after. That happens. I just went to the next in line.
The day after I called but I didn't got an answer, at first. A little later she finally took the phone and was all hyped up and laughing by something one college apparently had said in the lunch. Finally I popped the question and asked if she could go at the back of the computer and check if the network cable was in. She couldn't (by unknown reasons), so she got a colleague to help her out. I, by now, was a little edgy because I wanted to move on to another costumer, because I, or rather we, sat there waited until he came.
He didn't know what an rj45 or commonly known as an ethernet cable plug were, so I had to explain that too, so he had to look carefully. And yes, it was the cable.
My experience is that the maids or cleaners have a tendency to roam around with their mops or vacuum-cleaner like some hyperactive dragon on speed, and don't realize that they can snap out cables. That happens a lot.
Was this the most productive or the best way? Probably not xD
"*sigh* Usually no. One of the forums I used to help out on, it was something like 90% never returned when we had threads like this. They either didn't come back or they forgot about their original thread and started a new one. "
This. You can almost always tell by the quality of the question of how much they really care and/or their sincerity.
On-topic:
I had a women calling in from a some corporate company years ago from NZ or UK, don't remember. As we had a contract on literally everything, from lines, SaaS, materials, services on the spot et al., (that's reversed insourcing or outsourcing when we call local tech company?) she just dumped the best way one could ask; "Can u fix my computer it doesn't work".
First I needed to asses the situation before I called local tech or line company, or if it was on our servers....
In short, I had to actually go over several questions and minutes later (she was actually quite vague), she had to go. I said ok, let me call you up the morning after. That happens. I just went to the next in line.
The day after I called but I didn't got an answer, at first. A little later she finally took the phone and was all hyped up and laughing by something one college apparently had said in the lunch. Finally I popped the question and asked if she could go at the back of the computer and check if the network cable was in. She couldn't (by unknown reasons), so she got a colleague to help her out. I, by now, was a little edgy because I wanted to move on to another costumer, because I, or rather we, sat there waited until he came.
He didn't know what an rj45 or commonly known as an ethernet cable plug were, so I had to explain that too, so he had to look carefully. And yes, it was the cable.
My experience is that the maids or cleaners have a tendency to roam around with their mops or vacuum-cleaner like some hyperactive dragon on speed, and don't realize that they can snap out cables. That happens a lot.
Was this the most productive or the best way? Probably not xD

MarkoH01
The goose rules!
Registered: Jun 2009
From Germany
Posted November 25, 2017

Customer "is this Dell?"
"yes sir, how can I help you today?"
C:"I bought this F$%#% laptop and it doesn't work"
"ok what do you mean by it doesn't work?"
C:" it has a BLACK SCREEN IT DOES NOTHING it's a piece of s#$%#$%"
"did you put the battery in and charge it up?"
C:" Battery? what the F$%#^% do you mean?"
"if you turn the laptop over it should have a slot where the extra piece in the box slides in and locks, there should also be a power cord in the box, do you see either of those"
C:"Hold on a second(yelling) what the F#$$% this is bull#$@%# they didn't tell me I needed to assemble this piece of S#$@%@%,(calmly) yes I see the battery, and a power cord what do I do with them?"
"put the battery into the open slot on the computer, then plug the power cord into an outlet them plug in the computer so the battery can charge"
(hear the battery click into place)(muttering) C"Ok it's plugged in now what?"
"open the laptop up and press the power button it will power up and you can follow the onscreen prompts to set up your windows with your personal information"
C:"Where the F$#%^ is the power button?"
"across the top near the screen hinges on either the left or right side press it and hold it for 2-4 seconds"
C:"you know what, F#@$@% this S$%^ this is too complicated I'm just going to go get a f#$%$#^ refund I don't need this F#@$%%^% headache" (click)
"Have a nice day" (end call)

toxicTom
Big Daddy
Registered: Feb 2009
From Germany
Posted November 25, 2017

Also they were told to leave out desks alone. Still, almost half of the time the next morning everything was tidy... and I wouldn't find my notes where I left off...

MarkoH01
The goose rules!
Registered: Jun 2009
From Germany

toxicTom
Big Daddy
Registered: Feb 2009
From Germany

Ghorpm
Zielony Brzydal
Registered: Jan 2012
From Poland
Posted November 25, 2017
- Can you make a measurement on my sample?
- Sure, what kind of a sample you have in mind?
(a long description follows)
- Uh, ok, it's kinda complicated but I can do it for about x$.
- Great, when can I expect the results?
- When can you send me the sample?
- Uh, I can't send it too you, it's too precious and I still need it.
- ...
- Sure, what kind of a sample you have in mind?
(a long description follows)
- Uh, ok, it's kinda complicated but I can do it for about x$.
- Great, when can I expect the results?
- When can you send me the sample?
- Uh, I can't send it too you, it's too precious and I still need it.
- ...

tiny E
Find me in STEAM OT
Registered: Dec 2012
From Other
Posted November 25, 2017

RWarehall
Ja'loja!
Registered: Jan 2012
From United States
Posted November 25, 2017
At Thanksgiving, a pharmacist was telling just such a story...
Some guy called asking for a thermometer that doesn't read temperature.
When she asked him to be more specific, it would just be "You know, a thermometer which doesn't measure temperature".
She suggested any number of things, even going so far as to ask if he was looking for something like a weather station that they had sold before.
But each suggestion got the same basic response, "You have to know what I'm talking about. A thermometer which doesn't read temperature." Eventually the guy just hung up.
Some guy called asking for a thermometer that doesn't read temperature.
When she asked him to be more specific, it would just be "You know, a thermometer which doesn't measure temperature".
She suggested any number of things, even going so far as to ask if he was looking for something like a weather station that they had sold before.
But each suggestion got the same basic response, "You have to know what I'm talking about. A thermometer which doesn't read temperature." Eventually the guy just hung up.

drmike
Why yes, I am a Major General
Registered: Jan 2012
From United States
Posted November 25, 2017

I just stack everything neat in a pile on the left of the desk and leave a mention in the notes that I leave for the person I was covering.
I still get emails and calls the next day asking where I put something.

Dejavous
New User
Registered: Oct 2017
From United States

HereForTheBeer
Positive Patty
Registered: Oct 2009
From United States
Posted November 26, 2017
I've kept a pretty good relationship with the OEM I sued to work for, after a bit of a hiccup several years back. The hiccup is no big deal, but anyway... Economy went slow from 2009-2011, as we know, and the machinery biz really took a nosedive. They ended up laying off virtually all of their techs, and the one manager with any sort of tech support experience left around 2012. At that point they had nobody with any sort of experience. All of us contractors then started getting a lot of calls from them. Work is good.
They have some guys now, got a few years behind them but they don't know much about the older machines like us contractors do. One tech in particular calls me 3-5 times each week, to the point that I now answer his calls with "Daily check-in!" To which he responds, "How you doin', Princess?" hahaha.
But nearly every cycle fault problem, I have to ask the same things:
- what's it doing?
- all the time, or intermittent?
- does this other thing work?
- what have they tried?
- did you get the machine status from the software?
And the answer is almost always "Not sure."
<sigh> Even if I wasn't asked to help out, they'd still need that info from the customer. So ASK them for it.
They have some guys now, got a few years behind them but they don't know much about the older machines like us contractors do. One tech in particular calls me 3-5 times each week, to the point that I now answer his calls with "Daily check-in!" To which he responds, "How you doin', Princess?" hahaha.
But nearly every cycle fault problem, I have to ask the same things:
- what's it doing?
- all the time, or intermittent?
- does this other thing work?
- what have they tried?
- did you get the machine status from the software?
And the answer is almost always "Not sure."
<sigh> Even if I wasn't asked to help out, they'd still need that info from the customer. So ASK them for it.