This is the sort of mentality that allows PI harvesters and brokers to get away with murder.

Opt-out marketing is a scam because the vast majority of people online think that default settings are in accordance with their best interests, which simply is not the case, and blaming them for being ignorant is itself ignorant because these people are ignorant by design.

"Muh freeze peach". You people are so LOL.

Just got around to this topic, and checking my settings. Of course there were things set to "Everybody" that I wanted set to "Friends". Of course.

I get that GOG wants to be more social. I would even bet this is related to trying to integrate Facebook, which itself is a horrible, horrible, horrible decision.

My security settings (security to me, I know it's privacy but I cherish my privacy) were set to public without my consent, with the only heads up being a nondescript forum post that isn't even an announcement.

I'm willing to bet the majority of users don't even know their info is vulnerable right now. This kind of stuff may be legal in my country, but I'm pretty sure you guys are breaking or about to break some serious privacy laws in the EU.

You might want to reconsider this and how you're handling it. After finding out that my privacy settings were turned to "Everybody", I decided I'm not buying the game I was going to buy tonight. See how that works?

I love GOG, but it's getting harder and harder to stick up for you. I used to tell people they were over reacting, that you guys were good, you're the heroes, DRM free saviors. I can't even do that anymore. I'm aware you have to grow to survive, and you're probably looking to increase revenue for your parent company, CDPR, but come on. Stop making mistakes already, please.

I can no longer look someone straight in the eye that's a gaming friend, and even try to convince them that GOG is better than Steam. You're getting to the point where all that separates you is Denuvo and Steamworks.

And some other people seem to ignore or forget that Galaxy already now isn't that optional for the multiplayer part of a lot of GOG games.

egh, there's a lot here

can someone tell me if we'll simply have an option to delete our profiles yet still maintain an account to buy games? seems stupid to have to have a profile just to purchase games, but then, it's gog

No kidding.

I wish I had a penny for every post I saw on Steam clamoring how the author won't buy the game unless Steam achievements are implemented. It sure would finance the retirement well enough.

I really do not understand the mentality that values some artificial (and usually easily achievable) "gold stars" above the actual gameplay. Theoretically I can understand the want to show off, but there are so much easier ways to do it... not to mention it sounds too much like a job rather than entertainment.

Eh, brave new world and all that, I guess. Now excuse me, some whipper-snappers are on my lawn again.

So, now that they're partly implemented but I still have no idea where this profile is or what it looks like, I'm gonna throw in a, "Hey, separate the privacy level."

Email is a no-go, but username is fine.

As Thomq so succinctly stated in their post (and others elaborated on since then), our privacy is already losing the more data-points are introduced and tracked by GOG.

If you cared for own privacy as much as you claim, I dare say you would not approach it with such indifference.

No, I do not use Google. I fact, I go so far blocking Google's access to my computer (along with FB and all the other big names), that I have a problem with GOG login because I keep on triggering Google's CAPTCHA all too damn often lately.

Which requires me to remove all the protection I set exactly to mitigate the scope of mining my information (no matter how irrelevant it may seem) and allowing Google do their thing just to access my account, or get locked out for a day or two.

Furthermore, complaining is absolutely the thing to do for somebody who does care about their privacy (or any other aspect of GOG that they disagree with). At worst it signals to the company potential loss of, if not outright consumer base, then goodwill, and may impact the final decision on a new feature or whatnot.

As an example, when it was not possible to use GOG's store page at all without allowing Amazon scripts, and we complained, GOG did listen and redesigned the site to remove the issue.

Or perhaps we should try to communicate with GOG in a way that allows them to retain the label of unique focus on customers that was behind the growth of the company in the first place?

GOG is still better than any other distributor out there that I'm familiar with. The main reason I complain about changes that go against my values is because I'd rather keep one place that I can get my games from.

Alternatively, GOG could try to do something to distinguish itself from the inevitable competition.

You want Steam features? There's Steam. Do you think GOG can compete with Steam on the same level? Because I don't.

Where I do see the potential for GOG's continued maintenance of market share (and hopefully growth) is setting itself aside from all other digital distributors.

In a positive way.

Yeah, I noticed the pattern also with BKGaming's posts.

The way I see it, if you have some counter arguments, bloody well communicate them. "Upvote" or "downvote" are not conversational tools.

dude they can already track you on games you buy/wishlist/ downloaded games, your pretty much already there
as well gog doesn't really have nothing people like steam profiles because it's easier to find people, play games together & find stuff in common
you may and the other 20 people don't want a profile but the 1K+ people do
https://www.gog.com/wishlist/site/public_gog_profiles
https://www.gog.com/wishlist/galaxy/profiles

personally i use Steam achievements for tracking games i beat and what difficulty, i can't prove or say i beat halo 1 & 2 on legendary when i was 10-14 years old, i beat also halo 3 on legendary as well

also the downvote/upvote i'm not sure how bad it's on these forums but other ones are terrible some people went to past comments from 1-2 years ago just to downvote me -_-

sidenote" people hate me for saying this but gog does't really have a community... because a community a unified body of individuals and have a common interests living in a particular area (drm-free) is the only thing we really share together, interests are divided some people want to play together but really can't with gog since there is no type of community going on so people with common interest can't play unless they find a discord server or something.

Just curious: if GOG goes ahead with their current plans, will that be the nail in the coffin for anyone posting angrily here?

It seems obvious to me that GOG wants to become known in the marketplace as a "real" Steam competitor.

Interesting. Not exactly the most requested wish in either category, but popular enough that it's great they're taking action on it. I just wish they'd have taken the law and their silent customers into account while designing the feature.

I find it rather interesting that they've marked it as "in progress" for Galaxy, but not for the site.

Since it can't hurt, and I didn't find any other wish which mentioned privacy, I just created this wish:
Set all privacy-related options to most secure by default

Thanks GOG, do like Nobody can find me......:)

They can set it to public by default for new accounts all they want as long as it stands somewhere in the TOS, they have to get permission from the existing accounts though, everything else should be (and probably is in some countries) illegal.

Thanks. Voted.

I already know I'm going to get a flood of downvotes for this, so let me just go ahead and save most of you the reading:
As much as it pains me to say this, I'm in favor of this decision.
You done? Good, now go ahead and just push the -1 button and move along. I already know about half of you would prefer to go off that alone, say I'm advocating for violations of privacy, and not bother reading what I'm actually saying, so get it out of your system. As for those of you who actually can be bothered reading walls of text, here's why:

First off, let me say that GOG, to me, is not the "friend" that I imagine it's felt like to most of you. As I'm sure I've said in an open letter or two before, I never had that feeling of "Wow, here's a company that finally caters to me!" like most of you have felt. The reason I support them is the DRM-free, and that's all that matters to me in regards to the company. It's the reason I love the store and the reason I want to see it grow, for the DRM-free. Coming from this perspective, I think this move is for the best in a sick sort of ends-justifies-the-means manner. Although I dislike the fact that it's removing privacy, this is something, as has already been pointed out, the majority of the customer base has been asking for, and for ages. It's something that will hugely boost the social aspect of GOG and, as a result, get more customers.

"But this is a violation of privacy!" you cry. "We should have everything private by default!" I disagree, and I think this action would be GOG shooting themselves in the foot if they did it. Having used Steam myself for a while, I know what it's like. Steam has had everything public about profiles by default for ages with no real complaints. In fact, now that the defaults recently changed, I've heard more dislike for the change to have things private by default, and I can actually see why. I'm against it myself, in fact. Normally on Steam, you can hit up people you meet in games, check out what kind of stuff they play, what kind of groups they're in, etc., and connect. If you want to keep hidden, it's fine, just change your settings. By hiding certain things by default (like libraries or wishlists), however, it removes a lot of that. When you'd normally check somebody out and see if they're worth adding as a friend, you instead see that it's all hidden and decide not to bother. Psychologically, it's a bit like ringing a doorbell where the lights are all off inside, you just don't want to annoy people. I imagine it would be a lot of the same way if GOG makes profiles private by default. While they'd be protecting privacy, they'd massively miss out on that social boost they're looking for. Consumers are usually stupid and, instead of exploring all the options, will just keep whatever default they're handed with and barely look into it. If everybody's private by default, the connections that GOG is looking for won't be made as rapidly. If everybody's public by default, it'll be way easier.

"Steam!" you cry, frothing at the mouth, immediately rushing to leave a nasty response in regards to "Steam is exactly what we DON'T want to be like!" (which will get "high rated" within 30 minutes or less) To which I say you're wrong. I always hear people complain about "Steamification" of GOG as some harbinger of doom, like it's the complete antithesis to everything GOG stands for. I disagree with this notion and think it's painting far too broad of a brush. I don't think there's anything wrong with looking more like Steam. Steam itself is great. It's a handy client with cool, useful stuff. It's got a solid social aspect. People love using it. What sucks about Steam is the DRM. The fact you NEED to use the client is why people hate it. GOG gives us the opportunity to say no to their client (>inb4 snarky comment about the offline Galaxy installers, I know, I hate them too, but I'm talking in general here), and is also giving us an opportunity to opt out of this as well by letting us change our privacy settings.

At this point, some of you have probably gone "But Zeo! These are two different things!" And yeah, I know. It's true, this isn't a matter of, like Steam, new people signing up and getting handed lack of privacy, it's more a matter of existing users getting hit with "Whoops, surprise, everybody can see your library now!" I get it, and agree it's bad. However, I suspect that the people who'll get hit with this kind of nasty surprise will be far and few between. Unlike the trickery with slipping Galaxy into the installers (which I'm still upset about to this day), I suspect, unless GOG somehow MASSIVELY screws this up, this is going to be a HUGE announcement. Heck, a couple of gaming journalism publications have already picked up on it, even. The vast majority of people will likely know all about this, and elcook has even been kind enough to tell us here on the forum (the population who'd care about this the most) in advance.

So, in summary, essentially I'm in favor of this because I believe this move will bring more customers to GOG, which they always desperately need. Again, remember that I see GOG as little more than "the #1 DRM-free store out there" and support them primarily from this point. I believe that this move will be popular enough that it'll boost the userbase considerably. Whenever the userbase of GOG is boosted, that's good news for DRM-free. That's more people who use (or even know about) DRM-free, and, in turn, more publishers who see DRM-free as a viable option. Again, I hate the fact that this means the privacy of existing users will potentially be compromised, but in my eyes, they've given enough warning and it's worth it. They've told us it's coming and it'll presumably be a big deal when it gets here rather than an on-the-sly secret. I'd rather have a few hundred disgruntled users if it means the store gets several thousand new buyers.

Now, understand that you may consider me biased to a degree. I'm younger than most of you. I use Steam a lot. I was never a "hardcore" GOG user to the point where I've considered myself to have great loyalty to the site (where my loyalty lies is in the promotion of DRM-free). I'm aware that there seem to be some European laws that potentially conflict with what's happening, which I'm not at all informed about, nor do I wish to argue about, I'm merely explaining how I feel about the matter. After a lot of back-and-forthing and being on the fence about how I feel about this choice, I've come to the conclusion that it's for the best. I'm giving my opinion on it just as the rest of you are, and you're free to hate me all you want for it.