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8700K shows great performance, overclocking is solid and the 8400 seems to be great value for money beating the AMD R5 1600 in games. Bad news is the usual no solder or "Colgate TIM" some people call and availability will be low for some time.

If you built a new gaming desktop now, what processor would you get?

Links to reviews

https://www.anandtech.com/show/11859/the-anandtech-coffee-lake-review-8700k-and-8400-initial-numbers

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/10/intel-coffee-lake-8700k-review/

http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/intel/1406329/intel-coffee-lake-review-intels-8th-generation-desktop-chips-are-here-and-theyre-fast

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-intel-coffee-lake-core-i7-8700k-review
As someone who had to deal with the Pentium bug from eons ago, I'd rather wait a few releases to see if anything appears:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_FDIV_bug
Been very upset with AMD ryzen lately, with all the bios updates from motherboard manufactures it seems the ram issues have not been fixed nor overclocking voltages. I am heading back to intel when they release the 8core consumer grade chips in half 2018 and sell my ryzen 1800x and gigabyte k7 motherboard for dirt cheap and i mean dirt cheap to someone who wants it.
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drmike: As someone who had to deal with the Pentium bug from eons ago, I'd rather wait a few releases to see if anything appears:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_FDIV_bug
And Pentium F00F bug
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greeklover: 8700K shows great performance, overclocking is solid and the 8400 seems to be great value for money beating the AMD R5 1600 in games. Bad news is the usual no solder or "Colgate TIM" some people call and availability will be low for some time.

If you built a new gaming desktop now, what processor would you get?
Comparing to Ryzen 5 1600 In most titles it's faster 3-25% based on the tests i saw (on 1080p the difference is bigger, on 4K there's barely 3% difference). In Civ 6 it's actually 10% slower, which is weird. However, situation with Ryzen improves quite a lot with high freq memory and Vega cards (since the most tests are done on 1080 Ti so far). Also, 8700K is double the price of Ryzen 5 1600 lol. It clocks great but it also gets hot and spends more power.

If i was getting a pc now i would go for either Ryzen 7 1700 (Ryzen 5 1600) or i7-8700 (non-K). But the best thing is to wait for Q1 2018 since Zen+ processors are coming out and cheaper Coffee Lake motherboards (no need to buy Z370 now if you don't plan to overclock).
Meanwhile :

http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-5-1600x-cpus-8-working-cores-spotted-wild/
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kbnrylaec: And Pentium F00F bug
That's actually not what I was discussing but thank you for the link. That's a long time bug instead of one discovered with a newly released processor. A little bit different.

For our webhosting servers, we're still running on Sandy Bridge. Works for us.

edit: Interesting read on the topic: https://danluu.com/cpu-bugs/
Post edited October 05, 2017 by drmike
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greeklover: 8700K shows great performance, overclocking is solid and the 8400 seems to be great value for money beating the AMD R5 1600 in games. Bad news is the usual no solder or "Colgate TIM" some people call and availability will be low for some time.

If you built a new gaming desktop now, what processor would you get?
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PainOfSalvation: Comparing to Ryzen 5 1600 In most titles it's faster 3-25% based on the tests i saw (on 1080p the difference is bigger, on 4K there's barely 3% difference). In Civ 6 it's actually 10% slower, which is weird. However, situation with Ryzen improves quite a lot with high freq memory and Vega cards (since the most tests are done on 1080 Ti so far). Also, 8700K is double the price of Ryzen 5 1600 lol. It clocks great but it also gets hot and spends more power.

If i was getting a pc now i would go for either Ryzen 7 1700 (Ryzen 5 1600) or i7-8700 (non-K). But the best thing is to wait for Q1 2018 since Zen+ processors are coming out and cheaper Coffee Lake motherboards (no need to buy Z370 now if you don't plan to overclock).
Dude I would watch out if you are doing 4 dims of memory cause that is still F'd up real bad. I had 10 bios revisions on my k7 motherboard and they STILL never fixed the problem. but I do agree high mhz ram does make it shine but when you cant get passed 2993 or 3066 in speeds on all dims than there is a problem here. Threadripper seems to be fine with ram speeds and whatnot so maybe hit a threadripper 8core build like should have.