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lazydog: In that case, I think your question has been answered already.

Gog states on the front page "you buy it, it's yours"
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Alaric.us: I hate to be the guy who does this, but no, that's not exactly how it works.

What is meant by that statement, is "it's yours to store."

However, other parts of the agreement explicitly mention that your use of these games are subject to your acceptance of each individual publisher's EULA. So you have to accept a license. The games are, therefore, licensed to you, not sold as property.

This is not a good thing, and not something I like, but this is how it is at the moment.
I appreciate what you are saying and I am not disappointed.

Accepting terms of an EULA are down to the individual and may or may not be legally standing.

I will stick with Gog as a store for now.
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lazydog: I appreciate what you are saying and I am not disappointed.

Accepting terms of an EULA are down to the individual and may or may not be legally standing.

I will stick with Gog as a store for now.
Ha, that's for certain! I'm sticking with GOG myself and I hope they grow, prosper, and get more and more games!
Post edited May 25, 2016 by Alaric.us
Since none of Gog's staff has chimed in they probably don't know either.

Until they get this sorted out, don't die.
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Seeker_of_7: I looked over the user agreement and searched the forums and i wasnt able to find the answer.
Since finding out that you cannot transfer your Steam account in your will i wondered what rules does GOG have about that case.

Can you leave your GOG acc to your inheritors in your will?
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nightcraw1er.488: Download all files, backup on multiple hdd's backup devices - core fundamental of DRM free is you own it. Therefore when you die your relatives get custody of the hdd's with the rest of your stuff, no need to even care about the account. Although for me I am going to be buried with my hdd's because I am that protective :o)
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Tauto: Webcam will catch out cheats,Gog will say ''Hey,that's not the account owner''.
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nightcraw1er.488: Picture on a bit of wire in front of camera (think it was mission impossible that first did that trick, although that was the scene the camera saw, not a person).
Been used many times in movies and tv shows and it never tricked me:)
just transfer your username and password. done, without anyones knowing or approval
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Alaric.us: If Valve is able to buy German judges at will, then Germany in far worse condition that I thought. But that's your problem. All I wanted to do was demonstrate that your claims do not hold water due to the fact that the judiciary of your own country disagrees with them. I'm still with you on how things should be, but sadly that's not how they are.
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Maxvorstadt: Well, I think German judges are not more worse than US ones. But in one thing you`re right: law says something, but the people who should enforce th law don`t follow the law.
you keep saying the law says so, but not actually provided any evidence of it so far. Alaric.us have provided a ruling saying this is not the case, so the burden of evidence is now on you. Quoting said law would help, and clear up this mess.
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Seeker_of_7: You can also change your email address on your Steam account. I was curious about policy and legality.
The worst that could happen is that they dig you up from your grave and put you to jail.
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Seeker_of_7: You can also change your email address on your Steam account. I was curious about policy and legality.
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timppu: The worst that could happen is that they dig you up from your grave and put you to jail.
you might be dead but your inheritor could end up in jail
or in the least the account could be deleted (as i heard is current steam policy if you notify them someone died)
Post edited May 26, 2016 by Seeker_of_7
The vast majority of licenses aren't transferrable, and I suspect that GOG's EULA reads the same way. So, technically, I suppose you couldn't.


Realistically... who gives a fuck? Do what you want. I suppose if you took it to a court, you could argue that you own the games and aren't bound by the license because of the language used on the website like "you buy it, you own it," that suggests that you're acquiring ownership in the game rather than a mere license.

But what do I know? I'm just a lawyer.
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Chacranajxy: The vast majority of licenses aren't transferrable, and I suspect that GOG's EULA reads the same way. So, technically, I suppose you couldn't.

Realistically... who gives a fuck? Do what you want. I suppose if you took it to a court, you could argue that you own the games and aren't bound by the license because of the language used on the website like "you buy it, you own it," that suggests that you're acquiring ownership in the game rather than a mere license.

But what do I know? I'm just a lawyer.
that's why i said that legislation is years behind the current technologies. except in criminal cases lawmakers don't know or even care enough about digital technologies/IT. And sometimes even in criminal cases.

Will all digital goods in the end be just a license?
will that be reflected in lover prices somewhere down the road?
will the lawmakers protect the customers?
will the customers care enough to make the courts protect them?

could GOG even make all their games inheritable if they decided to do so? or would they need to negotiate that with each publisher seperatly?
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Chacranajxy: The vast majority of licenses aren't transferrable, and I suspect that GOG's EULA reads the same way. So, technically, I suppose you couldn't.

Realistically... who gives a fuck? Do what you want. I suppose if you took it to a court, you could argue that you own the games and aren't bound by the license because of the language used on the website like "you buy it, you own it," that suggests that you're acquiring ownership in the game rather than a mere license.

But what do I know? I'm just a lawyer.
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Seeker_of_7: that's why i said that legislation is years behind the current technologies. except in criminal cases lawmakers don't know or even care enough about digital technologies/IT. And sometimes even in criminal cases.

Will all digital goods in the end be just a license?
will that be reflected in lover prices somewhere down the road?
will the lawmakers protect the customers?
will the customers care enough to make the courts protect them?

could GOG even make all their games inheritable if they decided to do so? or would they need to negotiate that with each publisher seperatly?
GOG would have to negotiate their agreements with their publishers, depending on what quantum of ownership they purport to distribute. But yeah, a terminable license is almost unquestionably not something that could be inherited.

You're right that the law has to catch up as far as digital goods are concerned, because there's still no real consensus on what one's ownership of digital goods actually entails. Generally speaking, US courts have been more pro-corporation than pro-consumer with these sorts of issues, which wouldn't bode well for this.
what i find interesting is reverse situation, where sites and services (like facebook, google, microsoft...) use their users data raging from internet habits to personal data and photos, ant the climate seems to be if you have put it online its free for all, whether it is companies them selves collecting the data and selling them to third parties, to distancing themselves from possible theft
versus their copyright and licenses which they protect mercileslly

will that double standard be able to survive legislation finally catching up to 21 century or will the corporations be forced to give one thing or another


again that also depends on consumers being informed and caring about the issues enough for the legislative to even bother about it
Post edited May 26, 2016 by Seeker_of_7
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Seeker_of_7: or in the least the account could be deleted (as i heard is current steam policy if you notify them someone died)
Never admit death. That's what my father always used to say (he is dead BTW).

Anyway, I think the reason these stores don't have an "inheritance policy" is because it would open up a whole new can of worms. If you can pass your service (account) to your heirs, people will also start demanding you should be able to pass the account to your friend, or sell it to someone else etc.

After all, all these cases are quite similar, they are all about just passing the ownership of the service/account to someone else, for whatever reason (death, money, death and money, sex, death and money and sex...).
Post edited May 26, 2016 by timppu
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Seeker_of_7: Will all digital goods in the end be just a license?
Important distinction: are you talking about inheriting the licenses to the games, OR inheriting the service agreement with GOG or Steam or whatever?

Software licenses can be usually transferred I think (also sold, so why not also inherited?), but service agreements normally can't. The software license agreement is basically between you and the game publisher/IP rights holder (GOG is just the store passing the license to you), while the service agreement is between you and the store/service provider (GOG, or Steam).

So it may well be that it is quite legal to pass all your GOG game installers to your heir(s), but not your GOG (or Steam) account. So they can freely install and play the GOG games you have downloaded from your GOG account (this works in practise because GOG games are DRM-free; the email purchase receipts or credit card transaction logs probably work as a proof of the ownership of the software license), but they don't necessarily have a right to access your GOG account and the services that GOG provides through it (like redownloading the games).

That's how I've understood it in general.
Post edited May 26, 2016 by timppu