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Posted July 09, 2015
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Pardinuz: "If somebody else looks like you, does that person violate the laws?" - Zhuo Jianrong, Director of Autobots (a knock off of Disney Pixar's Cars)

^ The best defense statement against plagiarism ever. What a genius.

Quote from here, have some chuckles: http://edition.cnn.com/2015/07/07/china/china-movie-disney-cars/index.html

And the trailer (which looks nothing like the poster): http://www.wandafilm.com/baseInfo/film/filmIndex.do?m=film_info_init_next&filmId=20150608034716982169
i know this is another attempt of china refusing to play by copyright laws, but if that statement was really true, white lawyers will be harassing every "asian" they see because "we all rook the same".

in any case i think most countries forbid the copyright of anything "natural" or created by mother nature. e.g. you can't copyright a species of dogs, and ask for royalties from all owners and breeders of such dogs.
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Dalswyn: Before you bash the Chinese, check out what the Germans have been cooking.

Disclaimer: this may hurt your eyes and ears.
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Pardinuz: What are you talking about? I don't see any resemblances. :D
do you watch any disney movies? there's that genie from aladdin, simba and 1 dalmation from 101 dalmations. the rest of them are just guilty of being ugly.
Post edited July 09, 2015 by dick1982
Posted July 09, 2015
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dick1982: in any case i think most countries forbid the copyright of anything "natural" or created by mother nature. e.g. you can't copyright a species of dogs, and ask for royalties from all owners and breeders of such dogs.
In the US only to a certain extend:

http://venturebeat.com/2013/06/13/supreme-court-no-you-may-not-copyright-human-genes/

Natural occurring DNS NO, but once you tempered with it, Yes.

And it was only speaking about human DNS.

Breeding and so on IS already protected.....

Sorry to correct you
Posted July 09, 2015
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ChaunceyK: So because Disney/Pixar made an animated movie with sentient cars, that means no one else is allowed to?
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Gilozard: One of the glaring issues with that line of argument is that it's not actually the mimicry that's illegal - it's deliberately making something that copies what other people have made. Having a piece of fruit randomly grow to resemble a Pixar car wouldn't be a copyright violation (although it would be hard to convince people it's accidental). Deliberately making something that leverages a Pixar look and brand is a problem.
I believe that's precisely the case here. As opposed to what ChaunceyK suggests, the intellectual property rights infringement here isn't the fact that the movie is about sentient cars. The problem is they're leveraging the Pixar Cars' look to trick people into watching their movie. Also the title is nearly the same, only changing one character and preserving the meaning so it can be confused for the real one. The evidence speaks for itself, especially considering the actual characters in the movie look like "a PC racing game from around 1998" as Wishbone put it, and not carbon copy of Pixar's look as seen in the knock-off poster.
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ChaunceyK: [EDIT] Found it! Tex Avery's "One Cab's Family"
Nice find! It's easy to see where Disney got the inspiration for Cars. :) (Just found that the humanoid bottom spanking bit, LOL!)
Post edited July 09, 2015 by Pardinuz
Posted July 09, 2015
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dick1982: do you watch any disney movies? there's that genie from aladdin, simba and 1 dalmation from 101 dalmations. the rest of them are just guilty of being ugly.
I put that smiley at the end to clarify I was joking. :P All of them are shameless downgraded copies. Especially Simba and the Aristocats. Hilarious stuff, though. You can watch those if you click the tabs on the top.
Posted July 09, 2015
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snowkatt: there are an asston of cheap knock off animated snow white movies
The wife and I made a Snow White movie this past weekend, though I wouldn't exactly call it a Children's Classic...
Posted July 09, 2015
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Dalswyn: Before you bash the Chinese, check out what the Germans have been cooking.

Disclaimer: this may hurt your eyes and ears.
Fun Fact: The female half of the Dingo pictures duo actually lists her work for the studio (I use the term very losely) as "Zeichentrickfilme / Plagiate" (eng. "animated movies / plagiarism).

http://www.simonegreiss.de/vita.html
Posted July 10, 2015
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Dalswyn: Before you bash the Chinese, check out what the Germans have been cooking.

Disclaimer: this may hurt your eyes and ears.
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Randalator: Fun Fact: The female half of the Dingo pictures duo actually lists her work for the studio (I use the term very losely) as "Zeichentrickfilme / Plagiate" (eng. "animated movies / plagiarism).

http://www.simonegreiss.de/vita.html
That's... an honest approach.
I'd heard that voice-overs were made by only two people, but do you mean that the entire productions are a four-hands efforts?
Posted July 10, 2015
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Pardinuz: "If somebody else looks like you, does that person violate the laws?" - Zhuo Jianrong, Director of Autobots (a knock off of Disney Pixar's Cars)

^ The best defense statement against plagiarism ever. What a genius.

Quote from here, have some chuckles: http://edition.cnn.com/2015/07/07/china/china-movie-disney-cars/index.html

And the trailer (which looks nothing like the poster): http://www.wandafilm.com/baseInfo/film/filmIndex.do?m=film_info_init_next&filmId=20150608034716982169
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dick1982: i know this is another attempt of china refusing to play by copyright laws, but if that statement was really true, white lawyers will be harassing every "asian" they see because "we all rook the same".

in any case i think most countries forbid the copyright of anything "natural" or created by mother nature. e.g. you can't copyright a species of dogs, and ask for royalties from all owners and breeders of such dogs.
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Pardinuz: What are you talking about? I don't see any resemblances. :D
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dick1982: do you watch any disney movies? there's that genie from aladdin, simba and 1 dalmation from 101 dalmations. the rest of them are just guilty of being ugly.
Actually Monsanto is bankrupting farmers by charging royalties on seeds planted that were harvested from their GMO plants. Yes, plants that farmers grew and harvested the seeds from are not free to use because the parent plant originated from an intentionally mutated strain.
Posted July 10, 2015
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Randalator: Fun Fact: The female half of the Dingo pictures duo actually lists her work for the studio (I use the term very losely) as "Zeichentrickfilme / Plagiate" (eng. "animated movies / plagiarism).

http://www.simonegreiss.de/vita.html
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Dalswyn: That's... an honest approach.
I'd heard that voice-overs were made by only two people, but do you mean that the entire productions are a four-hands efforts?
Apparently yes...
Posted July 11, 2015
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paladin181: Actually Monsanto is bankrupting farmers by charging royalties on seeds planted that were harvested from their GMO plants. Yes, plants that farmers grew and harvested the seeds from are not free to use because the parent plant originated from an intentionally mutated strain.
http://www.salon.com/2014/01/13/the_supreme_court_wont_stop_monsanto_from_suing_farmers/

i won't know if it's bankrupting them. not sure how much royalties they're talking about. and nobody's forcing them to use the seeds? "free" country right. but looks like the supreme court judged in favor of monsato.
Posted July 13, 2015
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Gilozard: Disney didn't 'steal' anything. Fairy tales, etc are in the public domain. Disney is free to use them, as is anyone else. This is why having a public domain is important - cultural touchstones need to be free to be part of the culture. Our shared stories shouldn't be hostage to a corporation's bottom line.
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timppu: Ok, so when some Chinese makes his own version of Snow White and the Seven Dwarves and Disney gets unhappy, he needs to convince the courts that his work is also based on the Grimm tale, not on the more widely known Disney version. Just make sure you don't use the same names for the dwarves as Disney did, as those they apparently made up themselves.

Which reminds me, I wonder if the makers of Snow White and the Huntsman needed to agree on anything with Disney before making the movie? I presume not?
Yeah, just like Sherlock Holmes - so long as nothing is used from the parts under copyright (dwarf names in the Disney movie, or the last 4 SH stories) it's free game for anyone who wants to remix it.

I really doubt they needed to make a licensing deal. I don't know if they borrowed any specifically Disney elements, but I don't think so. There may be one anyway, just to prevent Disney from getting greedy and suing on the off chance of getting a sympathetic judge, but I doubt it.
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