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1. You still need an account to access and download your game.

2. You still need an online account to access certain multiplayer games, for example Age of Wonders 3.

3. No cloud saves, no central achievement/trophies support, no central community support, no one-button-share, no easy mod support, pretty much all these awesome(& necessary) Internet era features are not supported( You pay a full price for an incomplete product ).

4. If you truly want an old PC game, why not buy disk/boxed version? A digital copy on GoG is exactly the same as a pirated copy.

5. In the end the illusion "DRMfree" campaign harms the entire PC gaming by providing no pirate protection copies.
This question / problem has been solved by CharlesGreyimage
Fine,you keep dealing with Ubisoft and others who require your PC
under their thumb...
Also buying a 20 year old game to play on modern PC's is nearly
impossible as all games will be Digital DL's...except boxed when
first released...And if it's Ubisoft or other certain names,be prepared
to be under their control...
As for Pirates nothing will stop them..
Post edited March 26, 2015 by gunsynd
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DRMFreeIsIllusion: 1. You still need an account to access and download your game.

2. You still need an online account to access certain multiplayer games, for example Age of Wonders 3.

3. No cloud saves, no central achievement/trophies support, no central community support, no one-button-share, no easy mod support, pretty much all these awesome(& necessary) Internet era features are not supported( You pay a full price for an incomplete product ).

4. If you truly want an old PC game, why not buy disk/boxed version? A digital copy on GoG is exactly the same as a pirated copy.

5. In the end the illusion "DRMfree" campaign harms the entire PC gaming by providing no pirate protection copies.
1. It's easier for the customer to have all their purchases tied to an account, if you had no account, then your rights to access digital content is significantly reduced. So actually, having an account makes it easier and less restrictive.

2. No cloud saves? What ever happened to backing up save games on a USB stick?
No achievement/trophy support? Boo-hoo, pointless popups that don't add anything of value to the game itself isn't there anymore? Truly a scam!

3. No central community support he says, posting on a community support forum.
One-button share? Does it take too long to copy and paste a URL on Twitter and Facebook nowadays?

4. As for the disc/boxed version argument, which is frankly misguided, because alot of old games are very rare to find - especially at an affordable price; even then you have to download patches to make them run on modern hardware. The beauty of GOG is that most games work right off the bat. Also, the difference between a digital and pirate copy is that some developers enforce anti-piracy measures in-game to stop pirates progressing further, also there is no official technical support.

5. ...You do realise Steam games are VERY EASY to pirate and crack, right? Even with Steam's DRM, it's almost as easy as a GOG installer.
Post edited March 26, 2015 by Dralel
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DRMFreeIsIllusion: 1. You still need an account to access and download your game.

2. You still need an online account to access certain multiplayer games, for example Age of Wonders 3.

3. No cloud saves, no central achievement/trophies support, no central community support, no one-button-share, no easy mod support, pretty much all these awesome(& necessary) Internet era features are not supported( You pay a full price for an incomplete product ).

4. If you truly want an old PC game, why not buy disk/boxed version? A digital copy on GoG is exactly the same as a pirated copy.

5. In the end the illusion "DRMfree" campaign harms the entire PC gaming by providing no pirate protection copies.
1 - yes, and on whatever store you buy a product ....

2 - many people weren't happy with this (about AOW 3 , including myself)

3 - never used clould saves; for achievements ....err well sorry the point of a game is to play it.... And you pay a complete product. If your comparaison is Steam, Steam offers extras features , that's different

each game or serie has subforum , which acts has the central support for a game / serie (could be better granted). And you could contact the gog support for issues , try this with Steam's support.....>.> (better to not ask too much...)

4 - many games in a boxed copy have a drm. GOG is legal , and old games almost of the time work without hassle on modern system.

DRM : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_rights_management

so before posting learn what's really a DRM.....

And no comment on the point 5 >_____>
Post edited March 26, 2015 by DyNaer
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DRMFreeIsIllusion: 1. You still need an account to access and download your game.
And once you've downloaded it, civilization could crumble around you and you could still install it whenever you want, whereas games on Steam (barring the few truly DRM-free ones) require you to be online to restore your backup. This is a problem for those of us who occasionally have internet outages.
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DRMFreeIsIllusion: 3. No cloud saves, no central achievement/trophies support, no central community support, no one-button-share, no easy mod support, pretty much all these awesome(& necessary) Internet era features are not supported( You pay a full price for an incomplete product ).
Awesome and necessary? Incomplete? Really? Some of us think that kind of fluff is annoying, but GOG's Galaxy client should address a number of those points regardless.
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DRMFreeIsIllusion: 4. If you truly want an old PC game, why not buy disk/boxed version? A digital copy on GoG is exactly the same as a pirated copy.
This is blatantly false. You've clearly never tried to get Omikron working on an ATI GPU, or Red Faction working on a modern OS with lots of RAM. Those are the kinds of problems the GOG versions allegedly solved (though Red Faction left with Nordic before I could see for myself, sadly).
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DRMFreeIsIllusion: 5. In the end the illusion "DRMfree" campaign harms the entire PC gaming by providing no pirate protection copies.
100% of DRMed games have their DRM stripped out and are pirated. This argument is completely detached from reality.
I call troll. Point 5 was the clincher.
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DRMFreeIsIllusion:
I can't stay on line more that a few minutes at a time.
Solve this for me and I'll listen.
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budejovice: I call troll. Point 5 was the clincher.
I called it at username. :-)
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DRMFreeIsIllusion:
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tinyE: I can't stay on line more that a few minutes at a time.
Solve this for me and I'll listen.
Generator running on empty?
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budejovice: I call troll. Point 5 was the clincher.
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madth3: I called it at username. :-)
Ninja'd by madth3 again! ;)
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madth3: I called it at username. :-)
Maybe a steam's staff member ^_^
Post edited March 26, 2015 by DyNaer
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tinyE: I can't stay on line more that a few minutes at a time.
Solve this for me and I'll listen.
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gunsynd: Generator running on empty?
I'm serious! XD For a lot of people DRM is an ethical thing. While I think about it in that regard as well, fact is I lose my connection a lot (sometimes for hours at a time) and can't keep a steady one for more than a few minutes which makes having to be logged onto a server to play a game impossible.

I want to know what the OP has to say about this though I seriously doubt I'm going to get an answer.

I just realized I also just described an erection but for once that ISN'T what I'm talking about!!! :D
Post edited March 26, 2015 by tinyE
Can't tell if trolling of if just stupid...

I'll go with Trolling. Gr8 b8 m8, I r8 it 8out of 8.

In a serious tone:
1: You need an account to download the game. Once it is downloaded, it is yours forever. If GoG closed tomorrow, I have every game I purchased from them accessible to me in my back up. The games are mine until I lose them.

2: You need an online account for a lot of multiplayer. Given that multiplayer isn't a main attraction in most games here, I say... SO What? For the games where I do need it, I'm no worse off with a DRM free version and an online account than I am with a DRMed version and an online account. Better still, I can access the single player content whenever I like forever, where as a DRM copy will cut off access to that eventually as well.

3: People installing games here are generally intelligent enough to migrate saves manually, install mods manually, and don't need pointless "good job" achievements, or feel the need to share every little accomplishment with the world. Great. So you need to be constantly connected. Good for you. It's gonna suck when you can't get online one day for some reason or another. Me, I can still read a book and enjoy my experiences without boasting about it digitally. There's nothing necessary and very little awesome about the features you listed, and the restrictive price of getting them (i.e. giving up freedom in the form of allowing invasive DRM) is too high for many of us.

4: A digital copy on GoG puts money in the pockets of the right people in many cases, and at the very worst, in the pocket of the rights holders. GoG has edited out DRM in a more reliable way than most cracks, and has instituted methods of running these games on modern systems. Some games can't even be installed from their original discs or disks. GoG has taken out the guess work and made it easy to get old games running on modern systems.

5: Pirate protection barely works as it is, and is invasive and harmful to host computers in some cases. DRM free not only helps the game industry by putting the paying customer back in charge, but it says no to invasive and resource hogging programs and bloatware that in the end don't even protect the program they're designed to keep safe. Soe DRM is harmful to PCs and most of it is obtrusive and flaky, causing issues with download, launch and enjoyment of a product that you paid for.

You can blissfully keep paying the anti-consumer markets you money and giving them the ok to invade your privacy and turn off your game when they feel you've played it enough. You keep subscribing to games as a service rather than a product that you are allowed to use when and how you see fit. Let people who have no business in your life control how you choose to live it and collect your personal data for their ad farms. Enjoy your completely plugged in and non private life. I like my life how it is, with my DRM free games and my ability to tune out and disconnect and still enjoy what I paid for.
Nice trolling. I can't believe anybody can be that stupid.
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