So another guy starts to insult people on this forum, but I have to justify my actions? Funny.

Guys it was fun, and thanks for every positive or constructive or funny post.

But I don`t have any nerves left to face hatred-filled people and their broken arguments defending a broken system. I have done that too often on youtube. Basically it`s divide and conquer, so...

I`m out. Until next time ;)

I'm pretty sure if I hang out on an Internet chat forum complaining long enough, eventually the world will hand me everything I want and deserve.

I'm waiting, world.

Waiting for Emob78 to use the Stalin or USSR or North Korea card against me even though socialism has nothing to do with blood thirsty dictators and a lack of freedom.

Nobody needs a massive collection of video games? I just hope that comment is sinking in with everyone here. I'm sure that about 99% of everyone here would disagree with that.

And I have no problem with you or anyone else calling me a capitalist pig, a Sith, an MRA nut, a right wing loser, or any of the other wonderful terms I've been called here. Sticks and stones, bro. Sticks and stones. Maybe with a few more sticks and stones we can make a fire, toss some crappy games on top and keep warm at night. Save on the electric bill.

I'm pretty sure if I hang out on an internet chat forum and make only smart ass sarcastic posts in a thread, the quality of my life will improve and people here will see things my way.

Nah, I tried that. It doesn't work so good.

Ah! Now I am very intrigued. :)

So are you a subscriber to Lemmarkism? With the new studies in epigenetics, I am very certain that there is a role for Lemmarkism, but I don't think that means you completely throw darwinian evolution out the window. I've taken courses on animal morphology, and there is great evidence to support Darwinism, or rather modern evolutionary synthesis, for instance the evolution of the human jaw starting at hagfish. However, I think this cannot explain everything, and epigenetics has shown that many behavioral responses are more coded in genes that can be turned on and off via stressors the youngs' parents' experience.

But just b/c modern evolutionary synthesis can't explain everything doesn't make it a psuedoscience. :(

This is why I love science, just when you think you have things figured out, you discover something new that turns everything on it's head :)

In the end, it is sticks and stones. But you were the one who complained about me calling you a Sith Lord. And I could of called you something a lot worse. Because Sith Lords, at least have cool looking armor, a light saber and can kick other people's asses in combat. But because "wienie" wasn't too bad, I didn't want to unleash a barrage of verbal poo flinging.

So you are saying people who ask(or demand) for help so they don't starve to death, freeze to death or die or just suffer from all the other bad things that can happen to an unfortunate person is greedy? It seems, you need to look up the definition for greed.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/greed

You do realize that taking a more capitalistic approach and letting people pick themselves up instead of keeping them bound to welfare would actually help more people than it would hurt, correct? Also, conservatives (who are typically capitalists) tend to give more of their money to charity than liberals (who have become increasingly socialist over the last few decades, and many are even self-proclaimed socialists).

Also, how many people has socialism brought out of poverty? How many people has capitalism brought out of poverty? Only capitalism allows the poor to become rich, as it prevents the idea of a fixed station in life- instead, you have the power to shape your own destiny. In socialism, the government decides what you get, and steals a bunch so that a few elites can have everything, at the expense of everyone else. But hey, I guess all those small business owners are just being greedy by creating jobs, giving to charity, and trying to make an honest living, right?

Also, I find it funny that you think it's generous to take someone else's money for yourself, but greedy to let them keep what's rightfully theirs.

Not all the money people make is rightfully theirs. I know of no person who made any money without society helping him make his money. We are all connected to each other. How much money would you be able to make if you were born in a world only populated by yourself? Without your parents helping you, you wouldn't of even reached the age of 5. Yeah, it's greedy to want all the benefits of society without paying society back for being kind to you. So to prevent suffering and death, money has to be taken because there are too many people who want to have their cake and eat it too. It is generous considering how much suffering and death it prevents. And letting people pick themselves up instead of keeping them bound to welfare would actually help more people than it would hurt IF we live in such a dream world. But real life, doesn't work like that. This world is not World Of Warcraft where anyone can just grind to a high level. If the world is the dream world you say it is, there would be very little suffering and death, right now. Not everyone who is poor or homeless, lazy or stupid or both. So that means the system is broken.

Dammit, I wanted to have an intelligent discussion about science, since this was what Rush was going on about. I guess it's more fun to just be snarky with one another and re-hash the same old arguemts. Sigh. *throws up hands and walks away*

I live in a dream world? You're the one that believes that someone being successful magically makes others fail. And are there people that have money that's not rightfully theirs? Of course; but we're not talking about theives. That's entirely different.

In a capitalistic system, people make money by benefiting society- by providing goods and/or services that others deem worthy of willingly exchanging their money for those things. In socialism, it's done by people having the favor of "the right people", and everyone else just doesn't matter.

Also, I find it funny that you consider the system that encourages charity and personal responsibility to be greedier than the system that discourages such things. Did you at all look at that link you gave that defined greed, or did you just look at the URL and decide that was sufficient? Wanting to steal from others is greedy. If you think that more needs to be done for charity, give some more of your money then. But I guess that's the major difference between conservatives and liberals. Conservatives think giving their own money is generous, while liberals think stealing someone else's money is generous.

It seems you don't even fully understand how capitalism works or are extremely delusional. Yes, in order for someone to be successful they have to fuck other people over. But in this world, we make this sound nice and innocent by calling it "profit". It is true that socialism is not immune from corruption but the current system is not immune either and insanely fucking corrupt. I find it fucked up you consider a system that allows a massive amount of suffering and death to be so amazing. The current system encourages charity? That is why there are so many people who are homeless and dying from poverty in this country...

Yeah, a small percentage of the population donating just isn't enough. Do you keep defending this system because it is good for you and you don't care about other people or do you truly believe this is the best system for humanity?

I KNOW it's best for humanity; capitalism is the only thing that allows the poor to rise out of poverty instead of just being serfs or slaves to a select few elite. It encourages people to grow and improve themselves, whereas socialism only teaches people to be slaves. Socialism is just an oligarchy with a friendlier face.

Also, how does profit "**** other people over"? Are you denying wealth creation? Tell me, if you gathered all material wealth in the world today, would it be worth more or less than all the material wealth a hundred years ago?

The part about not being serfs or slaves sound good but it's not just the way it works in real life. You believe in an illusion. If what you said is actually true, a lot of intelligent people wouldn't be for socialism and all the Scandinavian countries would be more like the USA. And does capitalism really help people grow and improve themselves? I don't see how having more material possessions and more expensive appetites, makes people grow. And is improving your money making capability, really improving yourself? Even if the system works the way you say it is working, it still throws too many people under the bus like those with mental problems, health problems and the outcasts.