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I don't really get what happened to multiplayer games.
Unreal Tournament didn't need microtransactions.
Some of the greatest multiplayer games didn't.
Why can't you make multiplayer games without microtransactions nowadays?
I definitely won't play this mode, but probably nobody will anyway.
There can only be one to three popular multiplayer games at one time.
Sure, you can play them without, you could even still make them without as a developer.

But when you can make *billions* of dollars, why would you not implement them?

I personally couldn't care less, because i will not play multiplayer. And even if, as long as they don't implement random lootboxes, i still couldn't care less.
If they do lootboxes though, aka gambling, it would be time for a boycott of anything CDPR related.
Post edited October 23, 2020 by Ranayna
Cyberpunk 2077's is not in a gaming genre that I would play but I just keep it simple and don't support games that do this stuff or any of the things I'm not interested in.
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Niggles: Anyone who has bought from gog for a longtime very well knows - its the single player game -- drm free which is the most important. I dont think many of us give's much care for the multiplayer and if that has microtransactions..
Some of us actually do like the occasional multiplayer title, if only they'd stop fucking them up with DRMed multiplayer and whatnot.
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Nible1: I don't really get what happened to multiplayer games.
A freaking metric ton of money happened. Specially if you have the luck to be the next Fortnite-like hit.

Edit: that's what people get by buying the "inofensive" cosmetic-only items.
Post edited October 23, 2020 by Dark_art_
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Mugiwarah: There are some "good" microtransaction like in path of exile or Warframe witch do not give advantage to players. But we'll see when the multiplayer launch if they follow Rockstar way or the "good" way.
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DrmSucksMaster: For me they're bad by principle. Games that include them are designed towards driving the player to spend money on them. You may not need that shiny glowing armor skin but the game will make sure to rub it in that you don't own it. It's a cheap psychological trick. The whole reason they exist is to keep people paying for a game they already own, which is just wrong in my opinion. I know those games you mentioned are F2P, but I don't care much about those. What really pisses me off is when they are included in a game you have to purchase, which sadly seems to be becoming more of a rule these days rather than an exception.
I don't like them too, but if the item is also in game with some grind (not a lot) it could be a good thing if can help developer. Just don't be like f2p model where the cash shop give advantage to those who pay and not to those who play.
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people do seem to perpetually forget...game development is a "business"...

it is not a public service.
If you are sure any aspect of a game is a "bad idea" and the company made "epic loot money", then they are right and well, you are wrong hehe

If company goes under then you were right and the company was wrong.

the joy of free market is that it really really does show what the customers want; people vote loudest with their wallets/credit cards!
Another thing that is almost always overlooked or ignored in this particular discussion is the fact that the multiplayer is a complete separate game.

The Cyperpunk 2077 that is about to be released *will not have microtransactions*.

The multiplayer will be standalone and may take a year or more until release.
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IncomingDmg: the joy of free market is that it really really does show what the customers want; people vote loudest with their wallets/credit cards!
Right? There isn't much point in complaining.
The mainstream computer game audience nowadays does not mind spending money on microtransactions. They want free games that they can slowly invest in instead of big $60-100 purchases that they may or may not like, and I can totally understand why. It does make sense!

But for me and most of us GOG customers, I'd bet we'd rather stick to full games. Heck I am ready to make $80 the base price and wait 3 years instead of 2 to get the games on sale if it meant getting full, no-DLC, no-MTX, no-server requirement, functional games. But even people on here can't keep their money in their wallets and end up supporting these business models, so what hope is there? Let's hope there remains a niche of devs that will keep making games for players like us.
Post edited October 25, 2020 by Nible1
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Engerek01: Spend that much money just so "you might" get an un-nefarious version? What happens if the game you get is "not-the-good-version" to begin with? Can you do a refund here? No, you can not once you have downloaded the game. But you can actually buy the game afterwards if others confirm that the game is clean.

So your argument does not hold in any possible situation.
What stops you from getting a refund if you have downloaded the game?
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Kamashii: What stops you from getting a refund if you have downloaded the game?
------ This statement of mine is no longer true-----
GOG does not provide a refund once you have downloaded a game. Only in some extreme cases where the game should work but it doesn't.
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(*)EDIT: My statement about refunds are no longer true. Thank you Grargar for pointing that out. You can now refund after 30 days even if you had downloaded the game.
Post edited October 25, 2020 by Engerek01
Aww... Noes... So I wont be able to do RTX on bekause my FUXXORING MSI GeForce RTX 3090 Gaming X Trio 24GB isn't here yet and it is seriously pi$$ing me off!

Konsidering it Kosts $3000 over here in satanstralia!

It is bekause of the Kovid Head Kold

Kisses!
Post edited October 25, 2020 by fr33kSh0w2012
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Engerek01: GOG does not provide a refund once you have downloaded a game. Only in some extreme cases where the game should work but it doesn't.
GOG updated their refund policy half-a-year ago. Provided you have bought the game within 30 days, you can ask for a refund, even if you have downloaded it.

More info:
https://support.gog.com/hc/en-us/articles/360006129837-GOG-COM-Voluntary-Refund-Policy?product=gog
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Grargar: GOG updated their refund policy half-a-year ago. Provided you have bought the game within 30 days, you can ask for a refund, even if you have downloaded it.

More info:
https://support.gog.com/hc/en-us/articles/360006129837-GOG-COM-Voluntary-Refund-Policy?product=gog
Thank you for that. I updated my previous messages to point out my mistake.
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Nible1: I don't really get what happened to multiplayer games.
Unreal Tournament didn't need microtransactions.
Some of the greatest multiplayer games didn't.
Why can't you make multiplayer games without microtransactions nowadays?
I definitely won't play this mode, but probably nobody will anyway.
There can only be one to three popular multiplayer games at one time.
Because apparently money comes first these days. Developing a good game, building a reputation for yourself and THEN earning money based on good reputation doesn't occur to publishers anymore. I think it's because they're afraid if they make a game that's too good and they can't "pull the plug" on that people won't buy newer games and in turn lose money. So they make the games disposable by turning them into "games as a service" where control over the servers is in the hands of the publisher. Not only that, they make sure that games that would otherwise work completely offline, HAVE to rely on servers to have all their features working. This constant connectivity also gives them the opportunity to shove microtransactions in peoples faces. This is the way EA, Ubisoft Bethesda, Microsoft have been doing for years now. AAA gaming has really gone to shit for the most part.


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IncomingDmg: people do seem to perpetually forget...game development is a "business"...

it is not a public service.
If you are sure any aspect of a game is a "bad idea" and the company made "epic loot money", then they are right and well, you are wrong hehe

If company goes under then you were right and the company was wrong.

the joy of free market is that it really really does show what the customers want; people vote loudest with their wallets/credit cards!
And what ensures good business? Users trust. And you can't gain that by screwing them over.
Post edited October 26, 2020 by DrmSucksMaster