Telika: In another thread, GOG's favorite neonazi is gloating about :

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/20/suspected-far-right-thugs-attack-mayor-of-thessaloniki-greece-at-rally

But apart from this, the problem is that 1) Rousseau's philosophy is generally wrong, because man is not particularly "good by nature",...

Telika: But apart from this, the problem is that 1) Rousseau's philosophy is generally wrong, because man is not particularly "good by nature" (and neither is the Noble Savage or whatever),

Telika: 2) The leading thugs do not emerge in a void, they are validated by the petty thugs and those who justify them. Hitler is not nazism, nazism is the part of the population who supported him sufficiently to legitimize his reign and make it function. The ordinary people who went "hey he's not that wrong and anyway the others are worse". All the people in all of Europe who were enthousiastic about the rise of authoritarian nationalist governments in Italy, Germany, Spain, etc. It's a whole cultural climate, the normalisation of a certain outlook on life, identity and society. Without followers, a king is naked.

The world is not controlled by evil geniuses in secret lairs, or whatever narrative sounds familiar (and therefore believable) to videogames or comics nerds. Not by some big convenient dragon à la Soros, whose decapitation would bring peace and prosperity to the world. The world is simply what emerges from our collectivity. It's lead by the very products of our socioculture, by what we praise and offer sustainable legitimacy to. If anything, the big bad boogeymen are the conspirationist fantasy (à la "elders of zion") that distract us from what we are doing. The real problem is the continuity between us and the governments that represent us.

And by "us", I do of course mean the street creeps à la golden dawn (go tell their real life victims not to worry about it), but also the rest of us, the ones who echo and carry the worldviews that excuse and justify to various degrees their deshumanizing violence (institutionalized or not) towards people of selected skin colour or sexual orientation. The ones who justify obscene differencial of powers by praising a capitalist system which validates and glorifies inequality to an extreme (or a clunky alternative to this, which creates a bureaucratic but just as spectacular hierarchy of powers). The ideological breeding ground that normalizes a system of which inhumane leaders are just epiphenomenal manifestations.

But keeping a reflexive eye on this cultural environment seems too complicated. So people keep their eye on what they can grasp, what feels simple and alien. Oh noes, my new neighbour is a darkie. Oh noes, the gays are kissing. Oh noes, my videogame is mocked. Oh noes, the evil genius is pulling the strings of a world gone bad, we'd be so well without him. All of this avoids the simple mirror of "hey, how come I'm saying the exact same thing as the baddies were saying right before ww2" ? Nevermind. The baddies weren't ever amongst us. People are just the innocent victims of randomly popping evil leaders that probably nobody voted for. Or voted for reasons completely disconnected from the contemporary popular discourses. Or because of the hypnotic chemtrails of occult islamojewish trotskoreptilians.

And this is immensely exploitable, and exploited. All you have to do is ride it. Go either "look, huniepop is destroying the souls of our kids" or "look, the them they are censoring our huniepop's free speech rights" and follow with "this is super serious, vote for us, i understand how very serious is your very important concern, also trump putin sjw because cultural marxists transkillary, by the way". And we end up yet again with the leaders we deserve : our echoes materialized, their self-criticism bypassed.

All it takes is to believe that the real issue is not at our own level (the "petty thugs" level, the "public discourses" level), but either below (my videogaaame) or above (Ernst Stavro Soros, or whichever is fashionable), and follow those who point at them.

movieman523: Which is exactly why we're seeing a rise in nationalism as voters vote to keep out the ignoble savages that the globalists want to flood their countries with. Yet you oppose that.

Which is odd. movieman523: You can fight all the petty thugs you want, but Soros and co will just buy some more.

Remember Antifa? Remember how the black-shirted thugs were everywhere just a few months ago? Remember how they were a grass-roots right-on reaction to the election of that horrible Fascist Literally-Hitler Trump?

Remember how that grass-roots movement just disappeared, almost overnight?

Odd, that. Almost like someone suddenly realize that Americans don't like black-shirted thugs beating people up and setting things on fire in the name of globalism, and pulled the funding.

But I'm sure you have another explanation.