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yyahoo: There's plenty of other games to add, including ones that have been Humble Bundle'd before but aren't yet in this bundle. There might be a DLC item, but I bet it's another game or two like HOI 2 or EU 3. The whole point of these bundles is to sell the base game to try and stimulate more DLC sales. You can't give away too much DLC. That's less for users to potentially buy...
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ElTerprise: I know but Paradox has enough DLC to give away (52 for CKII and 31 for EUIV). Of course i would prefer additional games.
I think it's to Paradox's advantage to give away more games rather than DLC. They want completionists to get the base game in the bundle and then buy all of the DLC (in EU 4's case that's worth well over $100).
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yyahoo: I think it's to Paradox's advantage to give away more games rather than DLC. They want completionists to get the base game in the bundle and then buy all of the DLC (in EU 4's case that's worth well over $100).
I'm with you on that matter but i'm a bit sceptic - and would be happy if i'm proven wrong.
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InkPanther: Is vanilla CK II playable/worth trying?
Yes, I've put hundreds of hours into it.

Victoria 2, on the other hand, is kind of weak without any expansions.
high rated
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Coelocanth: Wow, tempting. I own none of the games in any of those tiers. Backlog is looking at me strangely though, so I'm going to avoid eye contact and back away slowly...
Sent you a link with the first two tiers, enjoy!
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InkPanther: Is vanilla CK II playable/worth trying?
In my opinion, yes. The major aspects of the main (non-cosmetic DLCs) tend to get patched into the base game so you don't necessarily have to have e.g. Rajas of India in order to have the map expansion that came with it. If you want to play as any of the rulers added in RoI you need the DLC.

CK2 is also one of the easiest of Paradox's Grand Strategy games to get into, though it still has a decent difficulty curve and a willingness to keep going.

Edit: Europa Universalis IV also follows CK2's example in being enjoyable without DLC. Victoria 2 and Hearts of Iron 3 are reportedly very poor without any DLC, however. BundleStars has done bundles in the past for Vic2 and HoI3 with all the DLC.
Post edited May 12, 2015 by katya_stevens
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trentonlf: Sent you a link with the first two tiers, enjoy!
Oh, there strikes the mad gifter again. :P
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yyahoo: I think it's to Paradox's advantage to give away more games rather than DLC. They want completionists to get the base game in the bundle and then buy all of the DLC (in EU 4's case that's worth well over $100).
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ElTerprise: I'm with you on that matter but i'm a bit sceptic - and would be happy if i'm proven wrong.
That's funny. I thought I was being skeptical because I believed that they wouldn't want to give anymore DLC away, hoping to sell more instead.
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Coelocanth: Wow, tempting. I own none of the games in any of those tiers. Backlog is looking at me strangely though, so I'm going to avoid eye contact and back away slowly...
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trentonlf: Sent you a link with the first two tiers, enjoy!
Bad dog! BAD, BAD, BAD!

Someone take this husky's credit card away!
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yyahoo: That's funny. I thought I was being skeptical because I believed that they wouldn't want to give anymore DLC away, hoping to sell more instead.
Interesting to see who of us will be proven wrong in the end :)
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trentonlf: Sent you a link with the first two tiers, enjoy!
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Coelocanth: Bad dog! BAD, BAD, BAD!

Someone take this husky's credit card away!
Dogs are not bad! They are sweet and loveable!
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yyahoo: That's funny. I thought I was being skeptical because I believed that they wouldn't want to give anymore DLC away, hoping to sell more instead.
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ElTerprise: Interesting to see who of us will be proven wrong in the end :)
Make your bets!
Hmm...a very tempting offer. I'm considering throwing down $4.50 for the second tier. I've heard awesome things about CK2. I could redeem if when and if, I decide to eventually use steam again.
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Bouchart: snip
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katya_stevens: snip
Thanks.
Coelocanth notices a strange flickering on the monitor. Suddenly, the screen goes blank and the darkness pushes outward, enveloping Coelocanth so all sensation is lost.

Then... a feeling of motion. It's as if he's being drawn into the monitor. Sensation returns slowly, but it's not anything he's experienced before. He seems to be in a strange pseudo-matrix. Game shortcuts flicker in and out of his vision. Steam activation codes, GOG serials, Humble Bundle links, Indie Royale bundles, Bundle Stars purchases - all swirl around him like some mutated, many-limbed spider.

And then the realization sets in: the backlog has consumed him. It has assumed control. Brief flashes of his life rush by, only to be consumed by the sentience that is The Backlog. Sadly, Coelocanth accepts that he'll never see his beloved family again. He'll never escape the mountain of unplayed games. And he knows there is only one person to blame, one person to whom this nightmare can be attributed, one single entity that tipped the scales and finally brought this Frankensteinian horror to life... Trentonlf.

The computer desk is silent, the chair empty, dust collecting on the silent speakers. The twin rigs hum along as usual; no one attends the keyboard. But on the dual black LCD screens, a single message burns bright white:

Trentonlf, I'M COMING FOR YOU!
Mwhahahhahaahha, the joy of giving is truly a wonderful thing ;-)

Don't you worry Mr. Groot, I will behave as promised ;-)