Posted February 15, 2015
Here, choke on the 20gb update. Your obviously not rich enough to play our games so who cares, right?
192kbps, variable bitrate... you don't need anything higher probably.
Post edited February 15, 2015 by rtcvb32
rtcvb32
echo e.lolfiu_fefiipieue|tr valueof_pi [0-9]
Registered: Aug 2013
From United States
Here, choke on the 20gb update. Your obviously not rich enough to play our games so who cares, right?
192kbps, variable bitrate... you don't need anything higher probably.
Wishbone
Red herring
Registered: Oct 2008
From Denmark
Posted February 15, 2015
10gb update. Unbefuckinglievable. I could download 5 games for that.
It's not written on the side of the game it needs an extra 10gb download to even run. That's $200 dollars extra on my Wi-Fi internet. Is there a rule somewhere you have to actually state what games need to run on the back of the box before you buy it?
Is this just straight up fricken lying? Shady business practices or what?
Optional big patches from developers to make games better is nice of the devs. Forced 10gb updates that aren't even mentioned to even run the game is not cool. Not cool at all.
It only says you have to accept the Steam user agreement online before the game runs, that's it. Nothing about 10gb of downloads before it runs. Not one word. Lies! Steam lies!
Still, you're both barking up the wrong flagpole here. Steam is not at fault here, the developer/publisher is. Steam doesn't choose what to write on the box of a retail game, they have absolutely nothing to do with it. What exactly is it you expect Steam to do? When the developer suddenly delivers a 10GB patch to Steam for a game that isn't released yet, do you want Steam to send people out to every retailer in the world and write "Note: 10GB day one patch" on all the boxes with a magic marker? It's not their friggin' boxes! It's not their game! They didn't make it, they didn't make the patch, they didn't make the box. What the hell?
By all means, criticize Steam for the stuff that is actually their fault, but this is just ridiculous.
darthspudius
Steam is Power!
Registered: May 2011
From United Kingdom
Posted February 15, 2015
Still, you're both barking up the wrong flagpole here. Steam is not at fault here, the developer/publisher is. Steam doesn't choose what to write on the box of a retail game, they have absolutely nothing to do with it. What exactly is it you expect Steam to do? When the developer suddenly delivers a 10GB patch to Steam for a game that isn't released yet, do you want Steam to send people out to every retailer in the world and write "Note: 10GB day one patch" on all the boxes with a magic marker? It's not their friggin' boxes! It's not their game! They didn't make it, they didn't make the patch, they didn't make the box. What the hell?
By all means, criticize Steam for the stuff that is actually their fault, but this is just ridiculous.
Barefoot_Monkey
invertEd
Registered: Sep 2008
From South Africa
Posted February 15, 2015
Still, you're both barking up the wrong flagpole here. Steam is not at fault here, the developer/publisher is. Steam doesn't choose what to write on the box of a retail game, they have absolutely nothing to do with it. What exactly is it you expect Steam to do? When the developer suddenly delivers a 10GB patch to Steam for a game that isn't released yet, do you want Steam to send people out to every retailer in the world and write "Note: 10GB day one patch" on all the boxes with a magic marker? It's not their friggin' boxes! It's not their game! They didn't make it, they didn't make the patch, they didn't make the box. What the hell?
By all means, criticize Steam for the stuff that is actually their fault, but this is just ridiculous.
edit: Ah, I see - you're referring to bad_fur_day1's comments about the requirements on the box being lies.
Post edited February 15, 2015 by Barefoot_Monkey
jonridan
Not so new user
Registered: Jan 2012
From Argentina
Posted February 15, 2015
This reminds me of the time Omerta had that damn bug stopping you from playing the game... Clearly it was GOG's fault, right?? o.O Some people would have killed to get a 10gb patch for that game at that moment xD
As for the internet connection, patches, etc... I don't have a cap, and my connection is 10mb/sec. I pay like *making currency conversion* 40 dollar a month (because a promo ended, I was paying 16 before). In the US and Europe Internet usually gets really expensive, which I always thought was weird. Shogun 2 came out in like what, 2011? With all the patches that came out, is pretty obvious most of the code was replaced, so basically you are downloading the entire game again. Can you imagine if you had to download 345 patches? Damn... Kinda like the SP2 for Windows 7 now everytime you install xD In any case the fault is not on Steam, is in the developer and the publisher.
As for code optimization, yeah, forget about that. We can always get bigger hard drives, more ram and better connections... We can also get bigger thrash cans, bigger buildings, bigger highways... There's a limit as to how much you can ignore the lack of optimization on anything.
As for the internet connection, patches, etc... I don't have a cap, and my connection is 10mb/sec. I pay like *making currency conversion* 40 dollar a month (because a promo ended, I was paying 16 before). In the US and Europe Internet usually gets really expensive, which I always thought was weird. Shogun 2 came out in like what, 2011? With all the patches that came out, is pretty obvious most of the code was replaced, so basically you are downloading the entire game again. Can you imagine if you had to download 345 patches? Damn... Kinda like the SP2 for Windows 7 now everytime you install xD In any case the fault is not on Steam, is in the developer and the publisher.
As for code optimization, yeah, forget about that. We can always get bigger hard drives, more ram and better connections... We can also get bigger thrash cans, bigger buildings, bigger highways... There's a limit as to how much you can ignore the lack of optimization on anything.
darthspudius
Steam is Power!
Registered: May 2011
From United Kingdom
Posted February 15, 2015
Still, you're both barking up the wrong flagpole here. Steam is not at fault here, the developer/publisher is. Steam doesn't choose what to write on the box of a retail game, they have absolutely nothing to do with it. What exactly is it you expect Steam to do? When the developer suddenly delivers a 10GB patch to Steam for a game that isn't released yet, do you want Steam to send people out to every retailer in the world and write "Note: 10GB day one patch" on all the boxes with a magic marker? It's not their friggin' boxes! It's not their game! They didn't make it, they didn't make the patch, they didn't make the box. What the hell?
By all means, criticize Steam for the stuff that is actually their fault, but this is just ridiculous.
edit: Ah, I see - you're referring to bad_fur_day1 comments about the requirements on the box being lies.
Wishbone
Red herring
Registered: Oct 2008
From Denmark
Posted February 15, 2015
edit: Ah, I see - you're referring to bad_fur_day1 comments about the requirements on the box being lies.
Post edited February 15, 2015 by Wishbone
darthspudius
Steam is Power!
Registered: May 2011
From United Kingdom
Posted February 15, 2015
bad_fur_day1
Here they grow again
Registered: Oct 2013
From New Zealand
Posted February 15, 2015
The Developers are just being nice and giving updates. Steam is the one not asking if I want one or not.
A 10gb multiplayer patch and a few fixes doesn't really matter to someone that just wants to play the singleplayer.
Steam;
Would you like to update your game?
Yes / No
A 10gb multiplayer patch and a few fixes doesn't really matter to someone that just wants to play the singleplayer.
Steam;
Would you like to update your game?
Yes / No
snowkatt
Easily Bored
Registered: Oct 2010
From Netherlands
Posted February 15, 2015
^ that is as maybe
but that doesnt take away your over the top histronics in the opening post
you can place the size and the patch and the blame it self soulley at the feet of sega not steam
a 10 gig patch is ridicilous regardless but its sega's fault in the first place
but that doesnt take away your over the top histronics in the opening post
you can place the size and the patch and the blame it self soulley at the feet of sega not steam
a 10 gig patch is ridicilous regardless but its sega's fault in the first place
bad_fur_day1
Here they grow again
Registered: Oct 2013
From New Zealand
Posted February 15, 2015
I'm going to complain at Sega and the Creative Assembly for giving gamers free content and updates, that doesn't really make any sense.
snowkatt
Easily Bored
Registered: Oct 2010
From Netherlands
Posted February 15, 2015
yet you complain at steam for implementing said patch
and blaming them for shady business practises and lying
how exactly does that make sense
sounds to me you have an axe to grind with steam
and blaming them for shady business practises and lying
how exactly does that make sense
sounds to me you have an axe to grind with steam
bad_fur_day1
Here they grow again
Registered: Oct 2013
From New Zealand
Posted February 15, 2015
When it says only you have to accept the licence agreement to run it. But doesn't say you may need to download updates for it to run.
Sorry, but that is in shady territory.
How many kids and grandmothers got home to find they need 10gb of updates for the game they just bought to work. How many kids have suffered because of steam.
Sorry, but that is in shady territory.
How many kids and grandmothers got home to find they need 10gb of updates for the game they just bought to work. How many kids have suffered because of steam.
Post edited February 15, 2015 by bad_fur_day1
tiny E
Find me in STEAM OT
Registered: Dec 2012
From Other
Posted February 15, 2015
I'm confused, is the download voluntary or not?
Fenixp
nnpab
Registered: Sep 2008
From Czech Republic
Posted February 15, 2015
Hmmm...
I did have to stand back and think for a bit after reading the opening post as it was written in a very emotional manner, which is not exactly what I like to see in a post, however bad_fur_day1 does have a point. It's cool that most of the plannet has access to uncapped internet connection, but some people don't - and it would be really neat if those could disable product updates, or make Steam prompt them every time it wants to download a product update and allow user to choose when he wants to download updates. After all, Steam's offline mode is perfectly capable of updating a game even after months of being offline when you go online for the first time - so just treat the products that way, perhaps? Now I'm curious how's GOG going to handle this in Galaxy.
They never are. You can right-click a game on Steam and change automatic update settings, but you can never disable them completely.
I did have to stand back and think for a bit after reading the opening post as it was written in a very emotional manner, which is not exactly what I like to see in a post, however bad_fur_day1 does have a point. It's cool that most of the plannet has access to uncapped internet connection, but some people don't - and it would be really neat if those could disable product updates, or make Steam prompt them every time it wants to download a product update and allow user to choose when he wants to download updates. After all, Steam's offline mode is perfectly capable of updating a game even after months of being offline when you go online for the first time - so just treat the products that way, perhaps? Now I'm curious how's GOG going to handle this in Galaxy.
They never are. You can right-click a game on Steam and change automatic update settings, but you can never disable them completely.
Post edited February 15, 2015 by Fenixp