Posted December 19, 2015
Q: How can i deal with Gog's own logic in game-database naming patterns...
I am actually having again, and worse than any previous time, an awfully bad time at dealing with GOG database/file naming convention. It is up to the headache now...
What do i mean ? The way the games, their title and their download folders names, are completely lacking any consistancy and are very hard to cope with on a logical point of view. Both on "My Account" library page, on the downloading files, the way some games are "scattered" into several entriesn and such. I realise i am still not clear maybe ?
You can now jump to the TL;DR part of the message, that bears my question/call for help and advice, if you feel so...
So a few examples:
Lets take the adventure game serie called "Blackwell":
In "My library", the whole Blackwell serie is listed as separate entries? The game was released at first on gog as a single item to order, the "blackwell trilogy". Then the 4th game was released, then the 5th. Each blackwell has a sub-title (like Blackwell: Unbound, Blackwell: Convergence, Blackwell: Epiphany)
In the previous exemple, please note that Convergence is the episode 3, Unbound the episode 2 and Epiphany the 5th.
So in my library they are 5 separate entries with just serie name and sub title but not a single mention about the episode number (like, maybe, Blackwell: blablabla (episode X or Y). I can either display them in alphabetical order and so you guess what will happen (episode 5 will be listed before the 3 before the 5), or purchase date (a completely irrelevant way in this present situation)
Recently they finally added more sorting/filtering methods such as Olderst first (it fails, unbound is listed after Convergence and deception), or Tags Order (oooh finally, it is magical... yet i cant combine filters such as all games alphabetically then within some alphabetical range, tag order...).
Could have been simply Blackwell (ep x): sub name and problem solved...
But regarding blackwell, the horrible hell is not yet over, of course not. When i download the game installers and goodies for each entry, there are two problems... 1st) some goodies package are shared with several blackwell entries/episodes but as each episode is now a separate game entry, the same goodies package is listed for each entry, and will be downloaded on each different game folders that shared that goodies package in first place. Which means the same wallpaper zip, the same avatar zip and the same soundtrack zip will be downloaded 3 or 4 times in 3 or 4 different blackwell game episode folder.
Yes, yes, i know i CAN tell my brain not to download it more than once when i realise the same goodies package is shared along several entries. It is not my point is, i am not stating how my brain and lazyness can combine or not, i am explaining how things are currently from gog side (means up the whole stream of data, me being at the down end of it)
But there is not only this thing with the folder names... Lets say i download the 5 blackwell games, then i go on my hard drive and look at my gog installers folder and browse the file and folder list up to B letter... How what ? There is only one folder listed as "Blackwell", it is blackwell epiphany (the), aka 5th episode... Where did all the other 4 episodes go ? I only have blackwell epiphany files in the blackwell folder. No panic, they are convenientely and obvious logically in folders beginning by the "e" letter, as in "episode 1 blackwell blablabla" and "episode 2 blackwell chatty chatty". Ok, fine, why not... Then why the only game in "b" is the 5th episode and not the 1st one obviosuly... or why dont we have "episode 5 blackwell epiphany" just along the 4 other episodes ? Gog (and god maybe) only knows...
But hey... what will happen when OTHER games episodic series will do that too... will i have "Episode X game this blabla" and "Episode X othergame that blablabla" and "Episode X yetanotherdifferentgame thisandthat blablabla" ? Regardless of their capital letter in the title ? Brrr.... shiver
Now lets take a easier case (because your brain may just have melted as did mine earlier):
Elderscrolls Morrowind, Arena, or whetever. Not surprisingly, by alphabetical order, Morrowind is listed first, THEN Arena THEN Daggerfall. Don't freak out, it is perfectly "logical": Morrowind is listed as "elder scrolls III: morrowind", while arena is just "elder scrolls: arena" and daggerfall is not "elderscrolls II: daggerfall" or "elder scrolls: daggerfall" but indeed it is "elder scrolls: chapter II daggerfall". Ok, fine with all that, it is probably not gog fault here it is the way they were published and licensed and as such, gog is not allowed to alter their title at all... Oh and by the way, dont forget the mandatory ", The" at the end of each of those babies, of course, it is THE elder scrolls (and not elder scrolls), and so, there are a lot of game in the catalogue at the letter T :) (or not). They just could have faked alphabetical order with an invisible database abitrary key/number instead just to make sure. But OK, GoG may not have the leasure to modify the licensed/trademarked/copyrighted title of a game from a business partner publisher. But what they are completely allowed to is modify and decide the downloaded files folder name used by their own galaxy/gog downloader software. It is internal use, it is not displayed to the customer, it doesnt infringe the holy sanctified/licensed/trademarked/copyrighted title of a game, and it would help customers.
A little interlude about all the games with their title beginning by "The" but are yeat listed alphabetically by their second word's capital letter for obvious reason, yet those downloaded files folder are even labbeled as "the something" or just "something" at random whim for whatever non obvious reason of why keeping them in the T or not...
Then a last exemple: Earth 2150 Trilogy
There is a Earth 2140 trilogy too, this one is completely simply listed as one single entry in the library, has a single installer, and its files folder named as earth_2140_trilogy, which is totally fine. There is a Earth 2160 (not trilogy-esque at all) in the catalog, and that works the exact same way... Wait, didnt I mention "2150 trilogy" earlier ? Of course i did... Because it is the fun part: Earth trilogy is scattered in "My Library" as 3 entries (Earth 2150 escape from whatever, lost something and the moon project...). This was one single game reference in game catalog. It has 3 installers and so, 3 downloaded files folders... Yet, neither in the library nor in the files folder i can get at first glance whatever single clue about which campaign/game i should play first, and in which order they are... Like Earth 2150 trilogy, part 1 this or part 2 that. The 3 parts of this trilogy share the same goodies package (obviously, cause was sold as a single game reference from the catalog) so i may had secretely hoped that the goodies package would be tied to the 1st part download page and files folder. It is not, the goodies package are on each download page of trilogy parts and in each folder files. Because of course it makes sense, when i get a game as a single reference with 3 distinct campaigns, i may download the goodies maybe when starting to play the part 2 or 3, yes ? Leaving the goodies on part 1 only as a clue about where to start the game from was surely a terrible idea... Puting each of the 3 parts installer on one single download page (and a single download folder) couldnt possibly be considered as relevant either (especially with the 2140 just above)
So thats it: naming has many issues and lack of consistency in the catalog, then scattered even worse in "my account: library", and finally in downloaded files folder.
I am actually having again, and worse than any previous time, an awfully bad time at dealing with GOG database/file naming convention. It is up to the headache now...
What do i mean ? The way the games, their title and their download folders names, are completely lacking any consistancy and are very hard to cope with on a logical point of view. Both on "My Account" library page, on the downloading files, the way some games are "scattered" into several entriesn and such. I realise i am still not clear maybe ?
You can now jump to the TL;DR part of the message, that bears my question/call for help and advice, if you feel so...
So a few examples:
Lets take the adventure game serie called "Blackwell":
In "My library", the whole Blackwell serie is listed as separate entries? The game was released at first on gog as a single item to order, the "blackwell trilogy". Then the 4th game was released, then the 5th. Each blackwell has a sub-title (like Blackwell: Unbound, Blackwell: Convergence, Blackwell: Epiphany)
In the previous exemple, please note that Convergence is the episode 3, Unbound the episode 2 and Epiphany the 5th.
So in my library they are 5 separate entries with just serie name and sub title but not a single mention about the episode number (like, maybe, Blackwell: blablabla (episode X or Y). I can either display them in alphabetical order and so you guess what will happen (episode 5 will be listed before the 3 before the 5), or purchase date (a completely irrelevant way in this present situation)
Recently they finally added more sorting/filtering methods such as Olderst first (it fails, unbound is listed after Convergence and deception), or Tags Order (oooh finally, it is magical... yet i cant combine filters such as all games alphabetically then within some alphabetical range, tag order...).
Could have been simply Blackwell (ep x): sub name and problem solved...
But regarding blackwell, the horrible hell is not yet over, of course not. When i download the game installers and goodies for each entry, there are two problems... 1st) some goodies package are shared with several blackwell entries/episodes but as each episode is now a separate game entry, the same goodies package is listed for each entry, and will be downloaded on each different game folders that shared that goodies package in first place. Which means the same wallpaper zip, the same avatar zip and the same soundtrack zip will be downloaded 3 or 4 times in 3 or 4 different blackwell game episode folder.
Yes, yes, i know i CAN tell my brain not to download it more than once when i realise the same goodies package is shared along several entries. It is not my point is, i am not stating how my brain and lazyness can combine or not, i am explaining how things are currently from gog side (means up the whole stream of data, me being at the down end of it)
But there is not only this thing with the folder names... Lets say i download the 5 blackwell games, then i go on my hard drive and look at my gog installers folder and browse the file and folder list up to B letter... How what ? There is only one folder listed as "Blackwell", it is blackwell epiphany (the), aka 5th episode... Where did all the other 4 episodes go ? I only have blackwell epiphany files in the blackwell folder. No panic, they are convenientely and obvious logically in folders beginning by the "e" letter, as in "episode 1 blackwell blablabla" and "episode 2 blackwell chatty chatty". Ok, fine, why not... Then why the only game in "b" is the 5th episode and not the 1st one obviosuly... or why dont we have "episode 5 blackwell epiphany" just along the 4 other episodes ? Gog (and god maybe) only knows...
But hey... what will happen when OTHER games episodic series will do that too... will i have "Episode X game this blabla" and "Episode X othergame that blablabla" and "Episode X yetanotherdifferentgame thisandthat blablabla" ? Regardless of their capital letter in the title ? Brrr.... shiver
Now lets take a easier case (because your brain may just have melted as did mine earlier):
Elderscrolls Morrowind, Arena, or whetever. Not surprisingly, by alphabetical order, Morrowind is listed first, THEN Arena THEN Daggerfall. Don't freak out, it is perfectly "logical": Morrowind is listed as "elder scrolls III: morrowind", while arena is just "elder scrolls: arena" and daggerfall is not "elderscrolls II: daggerfall" or "elder scrolls: daggerfall" but indeed it is "elder scrolls: chapter II daggerfall". Ok, fine with all that, it is probably not gog fault here it is the way they were published and licensed and as such, gog is not allowed to alter their title at all... Oh and by the way, dont forget the mandatory ", The" at the end of each of those babies, of course, it is THE elder scrolls (and not elder scrolls), and so, there are a lot of game in the catalogue at the letter T :) (or not). They just could have faked alphabetical order with an invisible database abitrary key/number instead just to make sure. But OK, GoG may not have the leasure to modify the licensed/trademarked/copyrighted title of a game from a business partner publisher. But what they are completely allowed to is modify and decide the downloaded files folder name used by their own galaxy/gog downloader software. It is internal use, it is not displayed to the customer, it doesnt infringe the holy sanctified/licensed/trademarked/copyrighted title of a game, and it would help customers.
A little interlude about all the games with their title beginning by "The" but are yeat listed alphabetically by their second word's capital letter for obvious reason, yet those downloaded files folder are even labbeled as "the something" or just "something" at random whim for whatever non obvious reason of why keeping them in the T or not...
Then a last exemple: Earth 2150 Trilogy
There is a Earth 2140 trilogy too, this one is completely simply listed as one single entry in the library, has a single installer, and its files folder named as earth_2140_trilogy, which is totally fine. There is a Earth 2160 (not trilogy-esque at all) in the catalog, and that works the exact same way... Wait, didnt I mention "2150 trilogy" earlier ? Of course i did... Because it is the fun part: Earth trilogy is scattered in "My Library" as 3 entries (Earth 2150 escape from whatever, lost something and the moon project...). This was one single game reference in game catalog. It has 3 installers and so, 3 downloaded files folders... Yet, neither in the library nor in the files folder i can get at first glance whatever single clue about which campaign/game i should play first, and in which order they are... Like Earth 2150 trilogy, part 1 this or part 2 that. The 3 parts of this trilogy share the same goodies package (obviously, cause was sold as a single game reference from the catalog) so i may had secretely hoped that the goodies package would be tied to the 1st part download page and files folder. It is not, the goodies package are on each download page of trilogy parts and in each folder files. Because of course it makes sense, when i get a game as a single reference with 3 distinct campaigns, i may download the goodies maybe when starting to play the part 2 or 3, yes ? Leaving the goodies on part 1 only as a clue about where to start the game from was surely a terrible idea... Puting each of the 3 parts installer on one single download page (and a single download folder) couldnt possibly be considered as relevant either (especially with the 2140 just above)
So thats it: naming has many issues and lack of consistency in the catalog, then scattered even worse in "my account: library", and finally in downloaded files folder.
Post edited December 20, 2015 by Djaron
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