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I think this is an opportunity for GOG to approach EnixSquare to bring most of Enix's old PC library here.

One of Enix's old PC games is the original EVO and it is very much an evolution sim., sim in caps as it very much gets into details.
GOG is the ideal audience to sell this and other Enix PC titles versus Steam.

I would also like to see us get the MSX's versions of FF and both Dragon Quest 1 and 2.
I have a video for such opportunities.

You think staunchly Pro-DRM, Pro-Japan, Pro Console companies are going to come knocking on GOG's door based on one company's idiocy?

And you think SquEnix is going to be able to rustle up a rom for the MSX/PC-88/98 systems to give us a chance to play an obscure game from before they were even a name in the west?
Post edited May 15, 2024 by dnovraD
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dnovraD: I have a video for such opportunities.

You think staunchly Pro-DRM, Pro-Japan, Pro Console companies are going to come knocking on GOG's door based on one company's idiocy?

And you think SquEnix is going to be able to rustle up a rom for the MSX/PC-88/98 systems to give us a chance to play an obscure game from before they were even a name in the west?
Doesn't hurt to ask. If they say no, they can still bite our shiny metal asses ;)
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dnovraD: I have a video for such opportunities.

You think staunchly Pro-DRM, Pro-Japan, Pro Console companies are going to come knocking on GOG's door based on one company's idiocy?

And you think SquEnix is going to be able to rustle up a rom for the MSX/PC-88/98 systems to give us a chance to play an obscure game from before they were even a name in the west?
I absolutely do because if they WERE to put those products on PC, Steam would be the most BONEHEADED place to put them. Old 90's and before PC games GOG is indisputably the place to put them. The word of mouth has been enough to know if you were an old PC gamer and miss those games come to GOG.

I NEVER said any of their modern titles.
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Sarang: I think this is an opportunity for GOG to approach EnixSquare to bring most of Enix's old PC library here.

One of Enix's old PC games is the original EVO and it is very much an evolution sim., sim in caps as it very much gets into details.
GOG is the ideal audience to sell this and other Enix PC titles versus Steam.

I would also like to see us get the MSX's versions of FF and both Dragon Quest 1 and 2.
I'm hopeful of this possibility too. It would be great to see Square-Enix release their games on GOG.
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Sarang: I absolutely do because if they WERE to put those products on PC, Steam would be the most BONEHEADED place to put them. Old 90's and before PC games GOG is indisputably the place to put them. The word of mouth has been enough to know if you were an old PC gamer and miss those games come to GOG.

I NEVER said any of their modern titles.
Alright, point to some previous evidence or prior work which suggests so?

Clarifying addendum: Why now, all of the sudden would it seem the skies have parted for such an opportunity?
Post edited May 15, 2024 by dnovraD
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UnashamedWeeb: link
I absolutely support OP's sentiments and would love to see their JP games here.

But I know it'll be difficult to get them onboard even for their 80-90s JP games. Even though for some reason, SE Europe had greater autonomy in deciding where their western titles can be distributed. And I'm not sure if that dynamic is in place after SE sold off many of their western IPs and a few studios to Embracer, and are undergoing restructuring and layoffs at their American and European offices now.

https://www.ign.com/articles/square-enix-bracing-for-layoffs-in-us-and-europe-amid-restructuring
Post edited May 15, 2024 by UnashamedWeeb
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dnovraD: I have a video for such opportunities.

You think staunchly Pro-DRM, Pro-Japan, Pro Console companies are going to come knocking on GOG's door based on one company's idiocy?

And you think SquEnix is going to be able to rustle up a rom for the MSX/PC-88/98 systems to give us a chance to play an obscure game from before they were even a name in the west?
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Sarang: I absolutely do because if they WERE to put those products on PC, Steam would be the most BONEHEADED place to put them. Old 90's and before PC games GOG is indisputably the place to put them. The word of mouth has been enough to know if you were an old PC gamer and miss those games come to GOG.

I NEVER said any of their modern titles.
I agree that this is the time for GOG to act, and it needs to do so quickly, but honestly, if they want to take advantage of this moment of weakness of Square Enix, they need to aim high and demand all the major titles in the SE catalog, and not just the usual musty games that only 4 nostalgic oldies buy.

Enough of this inferiority complex that plagues this store and its users. GOG must focus on recent and popular games, or we will always remain in these precarious situations like these recent times when nothing remotely big has come out on GOG.
Post edited May 15, 2024 by Alexim
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Sarang: I absolutely do because if they WERE to put those products on PC, Steam would be the most BONEHEADED place to put them. Old 90's and before PC games GOG is indisputably the place to put them. The word of mouth has been enough to know if you were an old PC gamer and miss those games come to GOG.

I NEVER said any of their modern titles.
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Alexim: I agree that this is the time for GOG to act, and it needs to do so quickly, but honestly, if they want to take advantage of this moment of weakness of Square Enix, they need to aim high and demand all the major titles in the SE catalog, and not just the usual musty games that only 4 nostalgic oldies buy.

Enough of this inferiority complex that plagues this store and its users. GOG must focus on recent and popular games, or we will always remain in these precarious situations like these recent times when nothing remotely big has come out on GOG.
I would legit rebuy Octo, Octo 2, Triangle, that Oni game, Diofield and the FMV mystery game if EnixSquare did this. Same with the two Star Ocean remasters though I only bought the first so far. I forgot to mention Saturnellia. But I do see getting the oldies as a twofer as if we can get those MSX and PC98 games I think it will crack the door WIDE open for Falcom's past PC98 stuff like Xanadu.
At the very least besides the titles I originally mentioned what is there to lose offering EVERY Tokyo RPG Factory title to dip their toe in?
The MSX FF I want so bad as it has noticeably better sound as well as graphics.

edit: dnorva Wasn't GOG the ones who got Diablo first? Haven't we had THAT or Warcraft for a time exclusively? They bother with GOG because the audience is here not Steam.
Post edited May 15, 2024 by Sarang
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Sarang: The MSX FF I want so bad as it has noticeably better sound as well as graphics.
Some downsides of that version:
* Screen scrolling is jerky. (The MSX, unlike the NES, couldn't handle smooth screen scrolling.)
* Monks are useless. In other versions, monks can get high attack power when unarmed, but that's not true in the MSX version, taking away the only reason to use that class. (This means that only Fighters and the 3 types of Mages are worth using in this version, to my understanding.)

(At least TMPR works, from what I understand.)
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dnovraD: I have a video for such opportunities.

You think staunchly Pro-DRM, Pro-Japan, Pro Console companies are going to come knocking on GOG's door based on one company's idiocy?

And you think SquEnix is going to be able to rustle up a rom for the MSX/PC-88/98 systems to give us a chance to play an obscure game from before they were even a name in the west?
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Sarang: I absolutely do because if they WERE to put those products on PC, Steam would be the most BONEHEADED place to put them. Old 90's and before PC games GOG is indisputably the place to put them. The word of mouth has been enough to know if you were an old PC gamer and miss those games come to GOG.

I NEVER said any of their modern titles.
hm.... one place has more than 90% of sales of games and a much larger classic library, and the other is gOg... hmm... yes...

you do know that now there are more classic games on Steam than on gOg? They have almost all the games gOg has, but more exclusive classic games as well?
Post edited May 16, 2024 by amok
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dnovraD: I have a video for such opportunities.

You think staunchly Pro-DRM, Pro-Japan, Pro Console companies are going to come knocking on GOG's door based on one company's idiocy?

And you think SquEnix is going to be able to rustle up a rom for the MSX/PC-88/98 systems to give us a chance to play an obscure game from before they were even a name in the west?
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Sarang: I absolutely do because if they WERE to put those products on PC, Steam would be the most BONEHEADED place to put them. Old 90's and before PC games GOG is indisputably the place to put them. The word of mouth has been enough to know if you were an old PC gamer and miss those games come to GOG.

I NEVER said any of their modern titles.
Well, EA released a bunch of old games on Steam not long ago of which some haven't made it to GOG (though I am referring to C&C games which I guess might sell well anywhere), and there are numerous old titles that still haven't shown up here.

That said, of course I support GOG trying to get them here. I'm not personally interested in them but I'm just one person.
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Alexim: I agree that this is the time for GOG to act, and it needs to do so quickly, but honestly, if they want to take advantage of this moment of weakness of Square Enix, they need to aim high and demand all the major titles in the SE catalog, and not just the usual musty games that only 4 nostalgic oldies buy.

Enough of this inferiority complex that plagues this store and its users. GOG must focus on recent and popular games, or we will always remain in these precarious situations like these recent times when nothing remotely big has come out on GOG.
Unfortunately GOG is inferior financially. Just not enough money to be made here for big companies, or at least many of them, to care much about. It just is what it is. I do think minimum guarantees will continue to help though (edit), and taking on other projects like Alpha Protocol perhaps.

We may well always be in these "precarious situations" but there seems to be a pattern (at least the past few years) of big stuff coming out later in the year. And not long ago we got GoW 2018, Robocop, Tomb Raider Remastered, W40K Boltgun, Realms of Antiquity (over 1k votes for it at least), etc. edit: I literally already forgot about Alpha Protocol :P GOG may be working on a similar high-profile release that will take many months or longer.
Post edited May 16, 2024 by tfishell
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Sarang: I absolutely do because if they WERE to put those products on PC, Steam would be the most BONEHEADED place to put them. Old 90's and before PC games GOG is indisputably the place to put them. The word of mouth has been enough to know if you were an old PC gamer and miss those games come to GOG.

I NEVER said any of their modern titles.
It is the most boneheaded but Steam also has the largest marketshare and largest number of boneheads that would buy because it finally came to steam.

I would love to see the classics come to GOG (FF1 to X, Chrono Trigger) and also be DRM free. Although not retro, their new "retro-style" games like Octotraveler and Triangle Strategy may also honestly do better here given GOG audiences would more likely be interested in that retro style compared to audiences on Epic or Steam.

GOG is just not well known and Square's initiative is likely targeting their most recently releases though (Final Fantasy XVI, FF7 rebirth, maybe Kingdom Hearts) and while I would love the KH series to be on GOG and DRM-free, I doubt it would come to GOG over steam. KH also has insane DRM.
A great opportunity would have been to bring Dragon Quest, Final Fantasy, Nier: Automata or other of their greatest hits here. Not an obscure, untranslated RPG.

And saying that Steam is not a place for classic PC games is just plain wrong. Doom, Heretic, Monkey Island, Star Wars and others were all released on Steam before GOG.