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TerriblePurpose: Why in hell would you be ashamed of reading and enjoying 'children's books? I read the HP series and enjoyed the hell out of them. They're a great, fun adventure. What the hell is there to be ashamed of? Is it the fact hat it's popular, so must therefore be garbage? Or is it because as an adult you have to read 'literature' exclusively?
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servobeupstry: Up until the 1990's, adults generally grew out of children's fairytales, and moved onto books for their age range. The HP marketing/media blitz created the current climate of "kidults": the juvenilization of culture where 40-year-olds proudly consume products designed for 10-year-olds and obsess over revivals of the kids' stuff they enjoyed 30 years ago.
Personally, I consider it the much more mature, adult thing to enjoy things without worrying about age ranges rather than being stuck in the middle-school mindset of "Oh no! I need to look like the bigger kids and try to look as cool as possible!" Because, y'know, cartoons are for kids and didn't have tons of highly-trained adult animators pouring talent and creativity into these pieces of entertainment, and comic books are too flashy and colorful and can't possibly cover interesting themes, adults can't have pictures! And oh, by the way, anime is for basement-dwelling manchildren and video games are mindless, childish amusements that are a waste of time. Authors writing entertaining stories are for kids! What we need is deep philosophical content and purple prose! The only acceptable "grown-up" fairyta-...wait, sorry, "adventure" novels...are ones that feature sex and violence, which are things adults must consume!

I've read everything from ancient philosophy to early 1900s political satire to to Batman comics to obscure religious accounts nobody cares about that I needed a dictionary and Wikipedia on-hand for just to wade through and I just finished kids' book "Coraline" but a month ago. I even taught myself to speed-read and read over 50 books last year alone. You know what I've learned from a voracious consumption of literature? If you want to judge something, first read it for yourself and then judge it on the quality of how it stands on its own instead of lumping it into the genre and assuming it's trash, because I assure you that a solid 90% of any genre or category you can make up is trash.
Post edited April 22, 2019 by zeogold
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supplementscene: 4. Magical Lore. Yes she didn't invent it and it's borrowed but she creates an exciting alternate universe that is an escape from the mundane real world.
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Crosmando: Except that the magic in the HP universe is really terribly done, almost every spell is shooting something, wands may as well be guns.
I haven't read them all but they fly, they have a hidden passage to an alternate universe at the train station, they have time travel. These are off the top of my head.

I'm not saying these are unique but they're interesting fantasies that the reader indulges in.
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BeatriceElysia: So, how did JK Rowling succeeded & how did she make all that money? By selling average written books?
No. By selling average written books that appeal to broad audience most inner desires and fantasies. (see also: Twilight, 50 shades of gray, ready player one, etc)
Post edited April 22, 2019 by LootHunter
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zeogold: So, how did Mickey Spillane succeeded & how did he make all that money? By selling misogynistic crime pulps?
So, how did Beverly Clearly succeeded & how did she make all that money? By selling kids' books with shallow plots?
So, how did Shel Silverstein succeeded & how did he make all that money? By selling puns with scratchy drawings?
Who are those people?

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zeogold: So, how did Michael Crichton succeeded & how did he make all that money? By writing about dinosaurs and fake science nobody understands?
Whoa-whoa. "Jurassic Park" is hardest science fiction there is. And yes, I do understand it.
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servobeupstry: Up until the 1990's, adults generally grew out of children's fairytales, and moved onto books for their age range.
And what "adult age range" books are supposed to be?
Post edited April 22, 2019 by LootHunter
Okay, while that is a fun hot take, this isn't some recursive ruin. Rather, JK only managed to ruin the series with meddling in the poststory and having terrible opinions.
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TerriblePurpose: Why in hell would you be ashamed of reading and enjoying 'children's books? I read the HP series and enjoyed the hell out of them. They're a great, fun adventure. What the hell is there to be ashamed of? Is it the fact hat it's popular, so must therefore be garbage? Or is it because as an adult you have to read 'literature' exclusively?
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servobeupstry: Up until the 1990's, adults generally grew out of children's fairytales, and moved onto books for their age range. The HP marketing/media blitz created the current climate of "kidults": the juvenilization of culture where 40-year-olds proudly consume products designed for 10-year-olds and obsess over revivals of the kids' stuff they enjoyed 30 years ago.
“When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.” -C.S. Lewis
Post edited April 22, 2019 by tinyE
harry potter taught me magic is real if you believe in the heart of the cards and you too will be a real duel master
Harry Potter made me realize that my real vocation is witch hunting!
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slamdunk: harry potter taught me magic is real if you believe in the heart of the cards and you too will be a real duel master
I used to think that, then I played hearthstone... Talk about getting the sense slapped into you.
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Enebias: Harry Potter made me realize that my real vocation is witch hunting!
oh nice! that's a profession you can't outsource, which is a good thing in this wacky economy
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Enebias: Harry Potter made me realize that my real vocation is witch hunting!
It made me realize that since their release, Satan Worship among 12 year olds has increased 200%. :P

https://entertainment.theonion.com/harry-potter-books-spark-rise-in-satanism-among-childre-1819565664

I worked at B&N when they hit. We got picketed for selling them. I shit you not.
Post edited April 22, 2019 by tinyE
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servobeupstry: Up until the 1990's, adults generally grew out of children's fairytales, and moved onto books for their age range. The HP marketing/media blitz created the current climate of "kidults": the juvenilization of culture where 40-year-olds proudly consume products designed for 10-year-olds and obsess over revivals of the kids' stuff they enjoyed 30 years ago.
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tinyE: “When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.” -C.S. Lewis
Good quote, Tiny!
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tinyE: “When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.” -C.S. Lewis
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BeatriceElysia: Good quote, Tiny!
I love Lewis because of how he handled his faith. His beliefs were very important to him, as evidence in his writing, but he never let it interfere with having an open mind or cause him to preach or show scorn for those who were not of a like mind.

Throughout his life he encouraged open discussion about different philosophies and isms (is that redundant?) without installing his audience or peers with any fears of reproach or condemnation.



OH AND OT because I don't want ti start a separate thread:

HAPPY EARTH DAY EVERYONE!

I'm going to go play a Zerg campaign. They embrace nature, not destroy it.
Post edited April 22, 2019 by tinyE
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BeatriceElysia: Good quote, Tiny!
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tinyE: I love Lewis because of how he handled his faith. His beliefs were very important to him, as evidence in his writing, but he never let it interfere with having an open mind or cause him to preach or show scorn for those who were not of a like mind.

Throughout his life he encouraged open discussion about different philosophies and isms (is that redundant?) without installing his audience or peers with any fears of reproach or condemnation.
You sound fun & good natured. Wanna be my GOG friend?
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Lucumo: I dunno, I gobbled up the books when I was a kid and did watch the first movie...which was a huge disappointment, so much so that I didn't watch any of the sequels, even as a kid. So it's not fair to paint it as simple as that. She and her books/movies got pushed a lot, so the release of those became an event and because of that, became something special in the minds of the people.
I think i was too dumb to interpret a movia as disappointing. It was just Harry Potter and everyone was watching it.
Although I quit both the books and movies at the third one for whatever reason.

I do remember my freshman year of college people in my dorm were shocked I hadn't seen any of the movies after the third one.