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LASER97: I was headed towards L-1. Currently I'm still at L-3, and multiple people haven't even weighed in yet.
Well it stalled out for now...unless you WANT to go closer to lynch/lunch. o.0
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Cadaver747: I see, but since I even do NOT smoke I would rather get myself a virtual pipe or something. It's more fitting for my character and for my views: when you inhale smoke the words just froze for a moment and you can observer it whole and yourself as part of it. *inhaling big chunk of tobacco through a pipe*
Imo for full effect you need an actual pipe as a prop(real one or one of them toy ones that shoots out soapy bubbles).

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Cadaver747: SAW it, can't add anything to that. You replied to me: *it's me, it my usual self*, so... OK. Played the hell out of Max Payne games, didn't get the allusions though. Was it about *a real world as a game* or something (a breaking through a 4th wall)?
No, the bit in MP1 where max meets the finito brothers and asks a rhetorical question, then tells them not to answer it....I said that in reply to you mentioning rhetorical questions. :)

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Cadaver747: You're insisting on it, but you may as well try in helping the Town with investigation.
I do my best, but i'm usually more good with giving moral support to the team and flavor/fluff posts, tbh.

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Cadaver747: No, I DO get what you meant by that. In that case one should claim Town without role indication. See?
Maybe, but then someone could ask if that person had a PR or not anyways.

An aside: It is actually one of the few reasons I think a town(in general) should lie in such games...to protect a useful PR.

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Cadaver747: You can count on me.
*GR asks the band to play a song for Slim, before going back to his drink*
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LASER97: I'm going to remain quiet until Carradice, Cristigale, Lonzi, and Pooka have all weighed in. In the meantime, you guys can do some actual scum hunting.
Are you implying people aren't scum hunting?

As for the others...hopefully they will weigh in soon.
Vote Scenes Supplamicz (supplementscene)

I don't get why I'm the only one who finds his posts, logic and approach outrageous. In Court of the Sultan he was making sense and his actually good play (and an atrocious one for GR) net Loyalist faction an easy win (despite our flawless strategy). He mentioned so many times "this is not helping Town" but what help he provided since Day 1? He voted right away, he asked others to do the same, yet he jumped on Lith for the vote on Pooka and for some reason he hasn't even considered Pooka as Mafia, not until very recently. He expressed the thought that ZFR and Micro could be Town after their actual death and his nitpick for Laser's claim *regular townie* (not TOWN REGULAR) is a bit too much. There are many more small mistakes he made. He could be Town who is making them out of style or individual preferences but like I said he made perfect sense during the previous game (Court of the Sultan), he is not now.

Ready to switch to Laser any moment if needed or hammer him before EOD.
At the moment I think both Laser and Scene did all they can to practically plead us for being lynched right away.
I read them as Mafia or as lousy Town, both are bad. If one of even two of them are Mafia it would be hilarious, yet a bit boring, but still hilarious. If both of them are Town then Mafia should be laughing themselves to death right this moment, all they need to do is just sit and watch. And I would rather take a good look on remaining 10 players, or 9 to be precise. This nonsense with Laser/Scene is going in circles. And we have plenty of lurkers!
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LASER97: I'm going to remain quiet until Carradice, Cristigale, Lonzi, and Pooka have all weighed in. In the meantime, you guys can do some actual scum hunting.
Hell, the day doesn't really start until everyone shows up. This is but a prelude.
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LASER97: I'm going to remain quiet until Carradice, Cristigale, Lonzi, and Pooka have all weighed in. In the meantime, you guys can do some actual scum hunting.
When you'll finally find a courage to speak your mind again please check and comment/reply on 3 of my posts as per below:
1) https://www.gog.com/forum/general/gog_mafia_66_lunch_at_gogs_restaurant/post234
2) https://www.gog.com/forum/general/gog_mafia_66_lunch_at_gogs_restaurant/post241
3) https://www.gog.com/forum/general/gog_mafia_66_lunch_at_gogs_restaurant/post388
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Cadaver747: Vote Scenes Supplamicz (supplementscene)

I don't get why I'm the only one who finds his posts, logic and approach outrageous.
His play style is built to how other sites play, iirc.....it even almost caught us in the SH game...problem is, his play style made him seem iffy to some so not many listened and we won that game in part because of that.

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Cadaver747: In Court of the Sultan he was making sense and his actually good play (and an atrocious one for GR) net Loyalist faction an easy win (despite our flawless strategy). He mentioned so many times "this is not helping Town" but what help he provided since Day 1? He voted right away, he asked others to do the same, yet he jumped on Lith for the vote on Pooka and for some reason he hasn't even considered Pooka as Mafia, not until very recently. He expressed the thought that ZFR and Micro could be Town after their actual death and his nitpick for Laser's claim *regular townie* (not TOWN REGULAR) is a bit too much. There are many more small mistakes he made. He could be Town who is making them out of style or individual preferences but like I said he made perfect sense during the previous game (Court of the Sultan), he is not now.
As I said, he plays according to his own play style and that leads him to focus on some things/actions as being scummy or town, and so on. This sometimes makes him an asset in some games and not so much in others(or even a bit of both in the same game).

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Cadaver747: Ready to switch to Laser any moment if needed or hammer him before EOD.
As long as someone else doesn't steal your thunder, anyways. ;|

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Cadaver747: At the moment I think both Laser and Scene did all they can to practically plead us for being lynched right away. I read them as Mafia or as lousy Town, both are bad.
Tbh i'd rather lousy town be kept on as long as possible to give us extra voting power(or distracting NK targets for scum if need be to protect the other town players).

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Cadaver747: This nonsense with Laser/Scene is going in circles. And we have plenty of lurkers!
You could always poke the lurkers with this here anti-lurking stick(baton).
@Scene: back to one of your questions: lynching lurkers is always a valid fall-back strategy if one doesn't have a better suspect. But I think in this case we do have a better suspect than mere lurking.
>>>Off-topic:
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GameRager: Imo for full effect you need an actual pipe as a prop(real one or one of them toy ones that shoots out soapy bubbles).
Certainly.
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GameRager: No, the bit in MP1 where max meets the finito brothers and asks a rhetorical question, then tells them not to answer it....I said that in reply to you mentioning rhetorical questions. :)
OK, I get it now, thanks.
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GameRager: I do my best, but i'm usually more good with giving moral support to the team and flavor/fluff posts, tbh.
Please do try, there is not need to comment on that any longer.

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GameRager: Maybe, but then someone could ask if that person had a PR or not anyways.
So? The other person could ask about role all day long, it's a common practice to claim such thing on L-2 / L-1. Yeah, it's my 2nd GOG Mafia game but I get that's exactly like that, a common practice not reveal roles until the last moment. Anyone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
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GameRager: An aside: It is actually one of the few reasons I think a town(in general) should lie in such games...to protect a useful PR.
So the Town has 3 PR roles, how is claiming vanilla (regular, no powers) will help others if Mafia will most likely try to shot them, the others, with roles? If you mean that he was trying to protect his own super powerful role, again, why can't he just claim Town and claim the role until the last moment? If he is a Town and have a role what's the benefit of early lying about being vanilla, why it's any better that to claim Town???


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GameRager: His play style is built to how other sites play, iirc.....it even almost caught us in the SH game...problem is, his play style made him seem iffy to some so not many listened and we won that game in part because of that.
I played a few times on iirc channel, it was a long time ago. Still don't get it. What are the odds? Problem is he was good then, he is bad now.

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GameRager: As I said, he plays according to his own play style and that leads him to focus on some things/actions as being scummy or town, and so on. This sometimes makes him an asset in some games and not so much in others(or even a bit of both in the same game).
As I said he is not making much sense, and the worst part is that he is changing his views, almost like Laser. Not at all fishy, right? What good in that special play style? Give me a link in Admin thread for SH if you can, I'll check this out. If you can of course.

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GameRager: As long as someone else doesn't steal your thunder, anyways. ;|
Yes, hah-hah...
(very creepy and frighting emoji > the smile full of hollow emptiness, Cadaver Slim's eyes looking right through the GR, into the depths of his soul, searching like two starving animals for their pray)... you could say that.

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GameRager: Tbh i'd rather lousy town be kept on as long as possible to give us extra voting power(or distracting NK targets for scum if need be to protect the other town players).
Exactly how 2 of them helped the Town? They both voted Micro, the unwise Town, Laser *killed Scene* for fun, so if he is not Mafia, they know for certain who IS NOT a day wig shot, he claimed role out of Scene, so if Scene is not Mafia, they know whom to shot. I'll rephrase for you, because of them: 2 Town died (1 is on Mafia's hands), 2 people claimed roles, 1 people showed he is not a day shooter; and that's not all: they brought so much confusion and they are ready to vote anyone but themselves only to save their lives, they have not provided any good analysis yet they are continuously mentioning about some *phantom* scum hunting. Do you REALLY want Town to have them on board? Do you really think that both of them could be Town?

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GameRager: You could always poke the lurkers with this here anti-lurking stick(baton).
Sure is, I can do that.
*Cadaver Slim take another look on GR - there is only death in his eyes, GR shivers uncomfortably*.
Here take this, friend! ;)
*you check your palm and see +1 Mafia point*
Kindly check post #479 to find that I already posted in this game-day, then bumped Cadaver in case he wanted to add more to a short comment of his.
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Cadaver747: If he is a Town and have a role what's the benefit of early lying about being vanilla, why it's any better that to claim Town???
If he lied about his role, he should die. Lynch all Liars. ... A much better guideline that the mere lynching of lurkers.

If he is Town, he is a very bad player. Pointing out a possible PR is bad for Town. Claiming Vanilla early is bad for Town. And if he isn't even Vanilla, lying is definitely bad for Town.

So either Laser is a very bad player or he is Scum. I prefer to believe the latter.
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Carradice: Kindly check post #479 to find that I already posted in this game-day, then bumped Cadaver in case he wanted to add more to a short comment of his.
Yes, you stated:
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Carradice: At L-1, Micro is expected to claim a power role in order to prove himself Town.
Like all the other good Town folk. Why? Or was there something else to it?

>>>Off-topic:
As for the Jesus Christ Superstar, I prefer the original, it was my Jam during my carefree youth:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZD9b-NRfN8
I have no idea what's going on with this game anymore.

We're still in laser and scene? I'm really really tempted to see them both offed today, just to get their things out of the way.
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Lifthrasil: If he lied about his role, he should die. Lynch all Liars. ... A much better guideline that the mere lynching of lurkers.

If he is Town, he is a very bad player. Pointing out a possible PR is bad for Town. Claiming Vanilla early is bad for Town. And if he isn't even Vanilla, lying is definitely bad for Town.

So either Laser is a very bad player or he is Scum. I prefer to believe the latter.
That is exactly my understanding of things, maybe *lynching ALL liars* is a bit harsh, but all role claimers/requester are uber Anti-Town in my opinion and most likely Mafia or serving the needs of Mafia, even if unknowingly. The latter is almost impossible since they are experience, so they should know better.

That is the reason why I gave GR +1 Mafia point, he is an experience player, he is not stupid to not know that, Pooka even stated that *he has brains* (might be slightly wrong quote) and I saw their scum chat. So GR is looking bad by defending early role claiming for no apparent reason. And it it was about my question to GR, in my place we called it "asking leading questions". I knew the answer all that along.

Laser is a very crazy player (incl. role request, faking day shot, sudden *life value change*, *moon logic*, early role claim on D2).

Scene is a very crazy player (inc. early role claim on D1, *moon logic*).
@Joe am I allowed a single bah post? Please let me know because I don't want to waste it on something stupid.
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ZFR: @Joe am I allowed a single bah post? Please let me know because I don't want to waste it on something stupid.
You already made a prophetic "bah" post in the night! Just like Joe did in #65...
SirPrimalform.

I'm not bumping for you.