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Hi there guys, this is actually my first post on GOG. So I just thought of a possible way gog might get AAA titles to be released on here.
Would it be possible to have a system or an arrangment with developers or publishers whereby more games would be released on GOG if they can be given some form of assurance that the games will sell.
I do not know what negotiations or deals GOG makes with devs but if they can agree to have their games on here if the customers can pledge to buy the game. The developers at their discretion can then decide to release the game as long as enough customers have pledged to buy the game.
As much as i love GOG and everything they stand for it would be awesome if more AAA can be sold on here, without DRM of course. If enough GOG members pledge to buy a game that may sway these greedy devs to release the game DRM free on GOG.
What do you guys think??
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Kobby4u: [...] If enough GOG members pledge to buy a game [...]
How many are enough? And what form would the "pledge" have?

The wishlist is kind of a pledge system, assuming that those voting will make a purchase if/when the games get released here.
I'm sorry but I'm not going to pledge to do anything. :D

I don't even know if I'm going to exist tomorrow, so a pledge or a promise or an assurance is out of the question.
the main problem is many triple A use DRM and they don't want to avoid it.
It is not impossible to get triple A on gog but it is difficult because DRM is used a lot.
And if gog decide to sell drm games there is no reason to buy here anymore.
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Kobby4u: [...] If enough GOG members pledge to buy a game [...]
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HypersomniacLive: How many are enough? And what form would the "pledge" have?

The wishlist is kind of a pledge system, assuming that those voting will make a purchase if/when the games get released here.
well i was thinking of something like a pre order system. So if a developer sees that a 1000 people have pledged to buy the game they would then release it, then and only then would our credit cards be charged.
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LiefLayer: the main problem is many triple A use DRM and they don't want to avoid it.
It is not impossible to get triple A on gog but it is difficult because DRM is used a lot.
And if gog decide to sell drm games there is no reason to buy here anymore.
Well hopefully their greed would sway them to do otherwise, if over a thousand people pledge or "pre order" their games, they may forgo the DRM altogether.

i doubt the community wish list is reflection of how many people would actually shell out money to buy a game.
Post edited June 16, 2016 by Kobby4u
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Kobby4u: ...
Welcome!

What you're saying is a nice idea, but unfortunately a "pledge" means very little in business terms (similar to a Change.org petition). Your best bet in getting AAA games here is to keep buying games and encourage other people to join the service; as GOG grows and gains a larger marketshare, they have more negotiating power in bringing games here.

And yes, search for and vote for games you'd buy if they came to GOG, but only if you'd actually buy them here, please: https://www.gog.com/wishlist/games
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Kobby4u: ...
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tfishell: Welcome!

What you're saying is a nice idea, but unfortunately a "pledge" means very little in business terms (similar to a Change.org petition). Your best bet in getting AAA games here is to keep buying games and encourage other people to join the service; as GOG grows and gains a larger marketshare, they have more negotiating power in bringing games here.

And yes, search for and vote for games you'd buy if they came to GOG, but only if you'd actually buy them here, please: https://www.gog.com/wishlist/games
Thanks for the reply, but what if the "pledge" was treated as a pre-order by GOG? our credit cards can only be charged once the game is released.
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Kobby4u: well i was thinking of something like a pre order system. So if a developer sees that a 1000 people have pledged to buy the game they would then release it, then and only then would our credit cards be charged. Well hopefully their greed would sway them to do otherwise, if over a thousand people pledge or "pre order" their games, they may forgo the DRM altogether.

i doubt the community wish list is reflection of how many people would actually shell out money to buy a game.
I think that this is not a fantasy world...
also pre order is not a good "weapon".

they will only drop the DRM if they cannot sell with it. They release many old games on gog because here many people actually buy some old games while many steam users only buy the "new thing".

if nobody would pre order or buy a game with any drm, I'm sure they would sell all games drm-free (I don't know if they would use gog, but drm-free is always a good thing even outside gog, for example Prince of Persia the sands of time that is now free on uplay is actually drm-free because you only need uplay to download it, not to play it (you can uninstall uplay, copy the folder in another computer and still be able to play it)).
@ LiefLayer
wishful thinking on my part I know lol. Steam has made DRM bearable for majority of pc gamers, and with denuvo around the corner the possibility of having drm free games seems impossible. I however refuse to pay money only to have a license to play my games.
If we can prove there are alot more gamers out there who would rather purchase games without DRM.
Post edited June 16, 2016 by Kobby4u
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Kobby4u: well i was thinking of something like a pre order system. So if a developer sees that a 1000 people have pledged to buy the game they would then release it, then and only then would our credit cards be charged. Well hopefully their greed would sway them to do otherwise, if over a thousand people pledge or "pre order" their games, they may forgo the DRM altogether.

i doubt the community wish list is reflection of how many people would actually shell out money to buy a game.
That sounds quite a bit like how crowdfunding works.

Would tit be possible to take back a "pre-order" pledge? If yes, and it absolutely should, then there's no way to actually secure "enough' people going through with the purchase. And if it wouldn't, it may have the exact opposite result, making people more reluctant to commit, not to mention that it probably isn't even legal in quite a few places in the world.

Within this context, I don't see much difference from the wishlist, which is a tool GOG uses when negotiating releases.
As are sales figures for other (similar?) titles. And this is probably GOG's best card, and it gets stronger as the figures go up, and that depends mostly on the growth of GOG's userbase, hence market-share.
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Kobby4u: [...]
If we can prove there are alot more gamers out there who would rather purchase games without DRM.
My approach on this is to contact those devs and pubs, let them know I'm a DRM-free advocate, and that I'd purchase their titles only if they're made DRM-free.
I too, am looking forward to the Duracell open-world survival sim.
I got news for you and i'm afraid it ain't good.

Pre-orders are an awful system and should die, Publisher clients are just another form of DRM, whether or not the games can run independently of them, you still have to install the client in the first place. The crowd-funding style pledge system is also flawed in that there is no guarantee of a sale so publishers are likely to dismiss it.

DRM is by and large, an ever diminishing problem now that the major publishers are now going for a 'walled garden' approach to distributing games. Anything that is a major seller or a flagship brand will be unlikely to ever come to GOG. Steam has tried to skirt this problem by making you sign in across multiple clients but even they are starting to get frozen out of certain releases now that publishers like EA and Microsoft want a bigger piece of the pie.

The only real solution is the one that resulted in us now having access to Saints row, Darksiders and the like. Good old fashioned corporate collapse and the redistribution of rights to IP.

Who knows, maybe Ubisoft and EA will both implode in the next five years and we will get all the games DRM free, updated to function on modern machines and for a reasonable price.
Well i am well aware that AAA titles released in the last year or two are virtually impossible to have on GOG. I was hoping for older yet recent titles like far cry 3, sleeping dogs etc. Dying light (i still remember how happy i was when i saw this game on the front page of GOG) is a perfect example, i don't see why devs could stand to lose anything by releasing games >3 years old.
I suppose that is why i thought my suggestion could help persuade devs to release their older games on here if they could get quite a lot of units sold. Im still optimistic about the idea though, just hope a GOG rep would chime in.
What sort of AAA?

I can't think much of AAA non-FPS.
Retracting a pledge or pre-order shouldn't really be a problem, im pretty sure those who reallly want the game will commit to their pledge, those who end up cancelling their pre-order to get it later when it goes on sale or whatever the reason should be the minority.

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OldOldGamer: What sort of AAA?

I can't think much of AAA non-FPS.
lol there is alot out there, sleeping dogs is 3rd person shooter.
need for speed series etc. iv been wanting to get the original nfsww and nfs carcon.
Post edited June 16, 2016 by Kobby4u