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Posted October 09, 2017
Thank you all for your suggestions :) I think I will play Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura and The Walking Dead next, and after I'll finish them I'll write a review.
Maybe I will get Planscape Torment in the next sale... never played it, but I heard some good things about it.
Posted October 09, 2017
This game has a lot of voice acting, and is more of an action game:
https://www.gog.com/game/legacy_of_kain_soul_reaver_2

This is one of the best RPGs out there. It's got voice acted dialogue, and responses you have to read and choose from (not unlike many other RPGs mentioned already):
https://www.gog.com/game/vampire_the_masquerade_bloodlines

Fallout 3 and New Vegas are similar to the one above as well as The Elder Scrolls: Morrowind and Oblivion:
https://www.gog.com/game/fallout_3_game_of_the_year_edition
https://www.gog.com/game/fallout_new_vegas_ultimate_edition
https://www.gog.com/game/the_elder_scrolls_iii_morrowind_goty_edition
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Post edited October 09, 2017 by Frajalistic
Posted October 09, 2017
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Frajalistic:
Nice list, thanks. I'm planning to get into this games for a long time. Always liked the Fallout games especially the first one.
Posted October 09, 2017
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_ChaosFox_: I recommend Danganronpa and the Zero Escape series as rare "quality" products.
I would have to anti-recommend Danganronpa. The first game contains a character who is handled in a transphobic manner, and the third game has many problematic aspects to it, including some plot twists that make the game worse, a bad (sometimes offensive) English translation, and the game has an awful ending.

One person I sort-of follow on twitter was not able to finish the game because of it.

On a not-so-serious note, Zero Wing, even ignoring the bad translation, isn't a good game for learning English; aside from the famous intro, there isn't any text in the game!

Also, ever heard of Pokémon? The English versions of those games, if you have a method of getting them that you are willing and able to use, are good choices; the games are marketed for kids (so the reading level isn't too high), and I'm not aware of any possibly offensive content in the series. Also, there are some everyday things that might not typically show up in RPGs, like PCs and bicycles.
Posted October 09, 2017
I learnt english with Sierra On Line's parser adventure games (such as early Space Quest, Police Quest, Quest for Glory, Leisure Suit Larry, etc). And some others of that sort.

Having to read and having to type, is the best way. No skip-and-click, trial-and-error game is as useful as these.
Post edited October 09, 2017 by Telika
Posted October 09, 2017
I hate to be a pain but I would think binge watching a couple television series would be a better way to learn English than a video game.
Posted October 09, 2017
A JRPG might be a good start. Like Dragon Quest. Not Dragon Warrior, that'll just teach you "Ye Olde Butchered Anglesh."
Posted October 09, 2017
You could also gather some friends and play some social deduction games:
https://boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/225855/my-15-favorite-social-deduction-games

I think "Secret Hitler" is quite good, but yeah, its theme is a bit much.
Posted October 09, 2017
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Darvond: A JRPG might be a good start. Like Dragon Quest. Not Dragon Warrior, that'll just teach you "Ye Olde Butchered Anglesh."
Actually, the later Dragon Warrior releases (that is, any that aren't on the NES) have normal English.

Edit: It occurred to me that the games released under the Dragon Quest title would actually not be good choices, as many of the characters have heavy written accents (especially in Dragon Quest 4 DS; here the NES version is probably better for learning English).
Post edited October 09, 2017 by dtgreene
Posted October 09, 2017
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dtgreene: Actually, the later Dragon Warrior releases (that is, any that aren't on the NES) have normal English.

Edit: It occurred to me that the games released under the Dragon Quest title would actually not be good choices, as many of the characters have heavy written accents (especially in Dragon Quest 4 DS; here the NES version is probably better for learning English).
I was thinking just Dragon Quest as translated on the SNES.
Posted October 09, 2017
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dtgreene: Actually, the later Dragon Warrior releases (that is, any that aren't on the NES) have normal English.

Edit: It occurred to me that the games released under the Dragon Quest title would actually not be good choices, as many of the characters have heavy written accents (especially in Dragon Quest 4 DS; here the NES version is probably better for learning English).
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Darvond: I was thinking just Dragon Quest as translated on the SNES.
In that case, you are talking fan translations, not official translations. The quality of fan translations varies (and, last I checked, the DQ6 fan translation has significant bugs and some lines (that the translator evidently get to) are replaced with numbers).

I would not recommend using a fan translation to learn a language unless the translation is known to be really good.
Posted October 13, 2017
I once knew someone who used The Secret of Monkey Island to learn Engliah. I think point-and-click adventure games are excellent for this: they are (usually) slow-paced, you constantly read the name of the objects you are interacting with and the actions you are performing, and many are dialogue-heavy.

I would recommend leaving subtitles on. Depending on your proficiency level, trying to understand everything without subtitles could be discouraging. Learning by immersion is a good method (although it requires time and dedication).
Posted October 13, 2017
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Frajalistic:
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Bass47: Nice list, thanks. I'm planning to get into this games for a long time. Always liked the Fallout games especially the first one.
You'll pass. I coached a guy for IELTS, utterly unprepared, couldn't write a coherent essay to save his life, and he passed.

Reading / grammar: read more. Read, read, read, read, read. You have to get a feel for the language so you know the answer to those "insert preposition" questions before you even see the options (which honestly only serve to confuse). This is where games and other entertainment is actually useful.

Writing: buy an IELTS self-study guidebook and study that. There are usually examples of shitty writing submissions (what not to do) and good writing submissions (with room for improvement). You don't just have to write, you have to write a specific thing in a specific style, cover all the important points in a faux-organic manner and whatnot. You don't cover a point, they dock the grade like a motherfucker.

Listening: get some training audio (IELTS or other esl exams). Don't rely on games or movies. There's a world of difference between acting in movies or games and the exam. They don't have VAs on there and the vocabulary is completely fucking different. IELTS is meant to test for your ability to do the most basic everyday shit in English, the shit that's at best a wordless training montage onscreen.

Speaking: talk to yourself about everyday shit. Spring or autumn? Boxers or briefs? High fructose corn syrup or crystal meth? Again, so utterly divorced from the notion of fun that the notion of fun took out a restraining order on it.

Arcanum is a great choice (for reading and in the general case)! Your English is fine; if you brush up on the specific challenges of the test, you're definitely going to pass. Now go get 'em.
Posted October 14, 2017
I think Undertale might be a good choice.

One thing to note is that Undertale does contain some wordplay. For example, there are jokes that rely on the fact that certain words have multiple meanings in English.

(By the way, try naming your character "Gaster".)
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