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AB2012: You can add Betrayer to the list. It's a very unique atmospheric FPS that's sold over 200k copies on Steam. I e-mailed the developer (Blackpowder Games) about GOG support and got back this response:-

"We have a DRM free build but no way to distribute it ourselves. We would love to be on GOG and we've tried twice but they've told us that they aren't interested."

That's incredibly sad given that the dev is one of the more positive minded ones out there, is made up of former FEAR and No One Lives Forever staff, provides a playable demo, actively engages with the community (they even e-mailed me back on a Sunday evening), adds requested features to the game (saturation slider, etc), and openly wants to provide a DRM-free version but is too small to run their own store.
That one boggles me more than a fair bit.
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jamesbuc: That one boggles me more than a fair bit.
Damn, I've been waiting for Betrayer on GOG for a while, played it recently and it's quite fun and unique but I don't feel like using steam much anymore so I wish it didn't get rejected here
Betrayer Bundled
FPS Heroes Bundle by Bundle Stars ($2.99 = 8 games) [currently available - no set expiration]
FPS Heroes 2 Bundle by Bundle Stars ($4.98 tier 8 games + $2.99 tier 8 games = 16 games total)
Friday Special Bundle #27 by Indie Gala ($1 tier = 3 games) [Note: Tier 2 - 9 more games for $2.89, $1.89 more]
Nightmares Bundle by Bundle Stars ($1.49 = 8 games)
Get Over It Bundle by Indie Gala ($2.19 - 6 games + $1 tier - 6 games = 12 total)
Nightmares Bundle by Bundle Stars ($2.49 = 8 games)
Monochromatic by Humble Weekly Bundle (~$3.50 BTA 3 games + $1 tier 3 games = 6 games total)
Blades of Janus by Indie Gala ($1 tier = 3 games)
Be Mine 16 by Groupees ($1 tier = 6 games)
Halloweekly Bundle by Humble Bundle (~$5 BTA 3 games + $1 tier 3 games = 6 games total)
Be Mine 14 by Groupees ($5 tier 4 games + $1 tier 6 games = 10 games total)

Basically, the game has been bundled to hell and any Steam owner numbers are completely inflated.

Not much value to GoG to carry a game that can be had easily for less than $0.50...
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RWarehall: Basically, the game has been bundled to hell and any Steam owner numbers are completely inflated.
We're getting braid though. :P
We also have Aquaria, Bastion etc.
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jamesbuc: That one boggles me more than a fair bit.
Wouldn't Humble store DRM Free be an option for them? O_o
Post edited May 04, 2016 by omega64
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RWarehall: Basically, the game has been bundled to hell and any Steam owner numbers are completely inflated.
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omega64: We're getting braid though. :P
We also have Aquaria, Bastion etc.
Bastion was never sold in the $1 tier (BTA twice and one deal for $1 for the one game).

Aquaria was sold in the very first Humble Indie bundle 6 years ago and showed up twice in bundles since, but is not "making a Bundle living" so much.

Braid also showed up in early bundles and hasn't been since, although up to 700,000 copies may have been distributed as such. Likely part of a package deal for The Witness and maybe a bit of an experiment to see if popular games which quit showing up in bundles for a couple years might have sales value yet.

There is quite a difference between those few bundle exceptions and the bundle whores that are Betrayer, One Finger Death Punch and so many other games. GoG just isn't dumb enough to try to sell a game that if one waits 2 months you can buy it for $0.25 elsewhere...

And just because a few of those games make the catalog, the fact so many have been later rejected...
Don't you think just maybe the sales of some of these games might have been a tad underwhelming here and the reason GoG isn't bringing more of them?
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RWarehall: There is quite a difference between those few bundle exceptions and the bundle whores that are Betrayer, One Finger Death Punch and so many other games. GoG just isn't dumb enough to try to sell a game that if one waits 2 months you can buy it for $0.25 elsewhere...
Fair enough if so, I don't pay enough attention to bundles to be certain how many times anything showed up.
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RWarehall: Braid also showed up in early bundles and hasn't been since, although up to 700,000 copies may have been distributed as such. Likely part of a package deal for The Witness and maybe a bit of an experiment to see if popular games which quit showing up in bundles for a couple years might have sales value yet.
I really hope it will sell well, it would be nice to get some indie "classics" of a few years back.
Still would like to see the Machines at War 3 here. Its just a small enjoyable slow paced RTS game and reminds me a lot of Supreme Commander while it is its own game.
Post edited May 04, 2016 by Matruchus
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RWarehall: There is quite a difference between those few bundle exceptions and the bundle whores that are Betrayer, One Finger Death Punch and so many other games. GoG just isn't dumb enough to try to sell a game that if one waits 2 months you can buy it for $0.25 elsewhere...

And just because a few of those games make the catalog, the fact so many have been later rejected...
Don't you think just maybe the sales of some of these games might have been a tad underwhelming here and the reason GoG isn't bringing more of them?
It's not all about sales, though. Some game might be import enough to warrant being here. GOG made it's business with good old games, afterall.

And anyway, maybe not at $1, but many of the games everybody seems to want here (read Bethesta) were already sold at around $5 at steam, which is a good price per hour ratio for those games. So everybody that's not drm-free exclusive has them already. And yet GOG wants them here too. VTM:Bloodlines has been featured at $5 in steam at several sales. And yet it probably sold well enough here.

Fact is, GOG has a base of customers that would rather have the game here than elsewhere. Some people buy the games here even when they already own them in other stores. You won't bring new customers with those games, but you won't do that with most games anyway. And you keep your customer base happy, and do your diligence for game preservation.
Dex and Nelly Cootalot 2 come to mind. :|
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rgnrk: snip
Of course it's about sales...

GoG has to pay to QA the games. GoG has to pay every time an operating system gets upgraded and into perpetuity. They aren't going to do this...it makes no sense to do this for games which have been bundled 11 times in the last 20 months like Betrayer or 11 times in the last 2 or so years like One Finger Death Punch. GoG cannot compete with games which are bundled for a quarter each where Steam and Humble leave it for just the developers to do the work.

There are tens of thousands of video games out there. Thousands of new games a year. GoG just cannot take such a loss, nor do they need to. You forget it hasn't been that many years since GoG turned a quarterly profit of less than $100.

Yet somehow GoG adding some over-bundled old game that only a handful of diehard Steam haters don't own is going to "promote" GoG?

Just shows how little business sense some people have...
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RWarehall: You forget it hasn't been that many years since GoG turned a quarterly profit of less than $100.
Summary of this, please?
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RWarehall: Of course it's about sales...

GoG has to pay to QA the games. GoG has to pay every time an operating system gets upgraded and into perpetuity. They aren't going to do this...it makes no sense to do this for games which have been bundled 11 times in the last 20 months like Betrayer or 11 times in the last 2 or so years like One Finger Death Punch. GoG cannot compete with games which are bundled for a quarter each where Steam and Humble leave it for just the developers to do the work.

There are tens of thousands of video games out there. Thousands of new games a year. GoG just cannot take such a loss, nor do they need to. You forget it hasn't been that many years since GoG turned a quarterly profit of less than $100.

Yet somehow GoG adding some over-bundled old game that only a handful of diehard Steam haters don't own is going to "promote" GoG?

Just shows how little business sense some people have...
Of course. I understand. That's why I would never release Fallout 3 here. Everyone that wants it already have it, as it has already been on many steam sales for pocket money. And it also sold like potatoes when it came out. So only the couple of steam haters who didn't buy the retail version would ever want it here. Not.
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RWarehall: Of course it's about sales...

GoG has to pay to QA the games. GoG has to pay every time an operating system gets upgraded and into perpetuity. They aren't going to do this...it makes no sense to do this for games which have been bundled 11 times in the last 20 months like Betrayer or 11 times in the last 2 or so years like One Finger Death Punch. GoG cannot compete with games which are bundled for a quarter each where Steam and Humble leave it for just the developers to do the work.

There are tens of thousands of video games out there. Thousands of new games a year. GoG just cannot take such a loss, nor do they need to. You forget it hasn't been that many years since GoG turned a quarterly profit of less than $100.

Yet somehow GoG adding some over-bundled old game that only a handful of diehard Steam haters don't own is going to "promote" GoG?

Just shows how little business sense some people have...
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rgnrk: Of course. I understand. That's why I would never release Fallout 3 here. Everyone that wants it already have it, as it has already been on many steam sales for pocket money. And it also sold like potatoes when it came out. So only the couple of steam haters who didn't buy the retail version would ever want it here. Not.
Strawman much? Fallout 3 has never been bundled 4 games to a $1. Funny how you think such a dumb argument has any meaning.

Some people wonder why GoG has passed of some of these games...
I gave you a very common sense explanation.

Most people will not pay $5 for a game here that they can get for $.25 on Steam. Nor would GoG expect them to. As long as some of these publishers print Steam bundle keys like crazy 6 times a year, it makes zero sense for GoG to attempt to sell those games. I have news for you, Pong is a classic game too, but I don't think GoG would make much money selling it for $14.99...

As to any game being on sale for $5, yeah, most of them, and most GoG users wait to even buy them here until they are on sale for less as well.

Maybe you ought to pay more attention to the release threads here. You get to see people post things like, "I'll pass on that one, got it in a Steam bundle already" "$9.99? That game should be $5.99 because its 7 years old already." "I'll wait for a sale on this one"

Some people here are delusional about the sales potential of some of these heavily bundled games. Most bundled Indie games which GoG accepts have only seen limited bundle releases, often BTA tier not $1 tier, and most often haven't been bundled in over a year. I wouldn't doubt if GoG adds a clause to the contract demanding no bundling for a certain period of time as well.

But with tens of thousands of games out there, GoG can easily be picky and ignore the bundleshovelware games.
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RWarehall: Strawman much? Fallout 3 has never been bundled 4 games to a $1. Funny how you think such a dumb argument has any meaning.
No, it didn't. But it sold more than 2 million units in Steam alone. The point is that most people that'll buy in on GOG would own it on Steam already. That's part of GOG's business. It's what happens when you release games way after its release date. And yet if works for GOG. Mainly because of the DRM-Free angle.

I'm not familiar with Betrayal, but One Finger Death Punch is a highly praised game that hasn't been released DRM-Free that I know of. The bundles are all steam keys.

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RWarehall: Some people wonder why GoG has passed of some of these games...
I gave you a very common sense explanation.

Most people will not pay $5 for a game here that they can get for $.25 on Steam. Nor would GoG expect them to. As long as some of these publishers print Steam bundle keys like crazy 6 times a year, it makes zero sense for GoG to attempt to sell those games. I have news for you, Pong is a classic game too, but I don't think GoG would make much money selling it for $14.99...
And you're the one accusing people of strawman?
But there's a bit of a point hidden in there. Yes, price tag is a very important factor to maximize sales.
Basically, using OFDP as an example. Maybe people wouldn't pay $5 for it -some would-. But a 60% release discount making it $2 on a drm-release? Probably many would.

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RWarehall: As to any game being on sale for $5, yeah, most of them, and most GoG users wait to even buy them here until they are on sale for less as well.

Maybe you ought to pay more attention to the release threads here. You get to see people post things like, "I'll pass on that one, got it in a Steam bundle already" "$9.99? That game should be $5.99 because its 7 years old already." "I'll wait for a sale on this one"
I do. And I also indulge in that kind of behavior. As a current example, you have VTM:Bloodlines recent release. At $20. A game that is usually in steam sales at $5. I didn't buy it on release here, of course. Maybe GOG shouldn't have release it? You watch those threads, so you know most people already played it and have it. And you also read that many bought it again anyway. And many more will -myself included- at a better price.

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RWarehall: Some people here are delusional about the sales potential of some of these heavily bundled games. Most bundled Indie games which GoG accepts have only seen limited bundle releases, often BTA tier not $1 tier, and most often haven't been bundled in over a year. I wouldn't doubt if GoG adds a clause to the contract demanding no bundling for a certain period of time as well.
And some other people dismiss entirely the fact that some people prefer games on GOG and are willing to buy them again if they already have them. Specially if they were never released drm-free before.
Another game that comes to mind -one of those whore-like games you reject- that would fit perfectly here and I actually think GOG would like to have is Brothers: A Tale Of Two Sons.

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RWarehall: But with tens of thousands of games out there, GoG can easily be picky and ignore the bundleshovelware games.
Some games are too important and too good to ignore, regardless of its bundles.
Brothers is one of those games for me. But hen you also have bundled games like the Civilization and the Total War series that people really really really want here in spite of that.