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General discussion" G2A sold $450k worth of our game keys"(66 posts)(66 posts)
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Posted June 22, 2016
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drewpants: An used product key is the same as buying a pre-owned game that has never been oped or played, which happens all the time. Technically the re-selling of physical copies is illegal - do you oppose that?
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amok: snip

However, selling a bundle key is, selling keys gained from credit card fraud is, selling keys gained from giveaway is, selling bulk keys from sales is, and these are the keys G2A sells.

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drewpants: snip
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amok: The premise it is built on is flawed, it is not only credit cards. Removing credit card only removes one aspect of it, it is still a grey market.
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drewpants: snip
The conditions for physical media and codes are more or less the same in reality, so the debate over their re-sale is likewise much the same.
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amok: see my post above.
Actually this is not illegal. There has been court rulings on this matter, and it is different from digital goods. In the eyes of the law in most countries today, what you are selling is the disk itself - but the license follows the medium. In digital it is different, as there is no medium the license can follow, so your argument is flawed. This is due to physical mediums having a limited life span. This is why it second hand works for physical, no matter what the market is limited by physical constraints of the medium. In digital there is no constraint, be spatial or time. In these cases, I do not think it is unethical, as this is not against any ToS or laws. And G2A do not sell them anyway.

That's actually an interesting point, that I will probably have to concede.

Well played sir.
Post edited June 22, 2016 by drewpants
Posted June 22, 2016
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nepundo: That's what I mean, most people think it's ok. Remove games from their accounts when a key has been fraudulently acquired at some point, and next time they'll find other ways to purchase their games, most surely not from a too-cheap-to-be-good reseller.
Doesn't work like this, unfortunately. GOG revoked a lot of stolen keys for Witcher3 a few month ago. The buyers came here to loudly complain that the key that was "gifted" to them was perfectly legit. Every one of them blamed GOG, saying it was a terrible store, that they would never again set foot in here, etc... None of those I saw accepted the fact that it was their reseller's fault.

Probably some people understood their misfortune were due to G2A's piss poor security screening allowing a thieving scumbag reseller to operate on their store, but I'm not too confident that it was "most" of them.
Posted June 22, 2016
Sorry, double post.
Post edited June 22, 2016 by drewpants
Posted June 23, 2016
G2A Den of Thieves
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBakPg6x63Q
Posted June 23, 2016
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Painted_Doll: G2A Den of Thieves
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBakPg6x63Q
Oh great video.
Posted June 25, 2016
https://youtu.be/E7Bi6PCQ39o?t=2h18m9s

A snip from the Co-Optional Podcast (from 2h18m) where there is some interesting facts pointed out by the hosts about the a-holes at G2A.

I know allot of people here don't like TotalBiscut but he has some interesting stuff to day here.
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