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Posted May 31, 2019
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aRealCyborg: ?
What do you mean?
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Darvond: They're using an old obsolete system which is supported by nobody for some inexplicable reason.
well it could be worse although windows xp and windows 7 is really better then vista, there are people that use palemoon and waterfox which are forks from firefox which only gets gets updates after so many months. and wonder why half of the sites never work
Posted June 01, 2019
I don't use anything weird like that, and the only reason why this computer has Vista on it is because that was the newest operating system when I bought the computer, and I'm not sure whether the other ones will work on it, be compatible with the hardware, everything else that I use on it, etc. and I don't want to have to reformat it to install a new operating system anyway.
Posted June 01, 2019
You should use your PC sensibly, which inherently means downloading windows upgrades which makes your computer safer is absolutely paramount. If you choose to use an old and unsupported operating system then you're also at a higher risk of getting problems with your PC.

The chances are very slim, but using a legacy operating systems means that you're far more vulnable in regards to security issues. One of the very small issues are the ones you're encountering right now with gog. Its best to switch on a better operating system like a Linux/Unix based operating system, such as Ubuntu and if thats something you don't like, ZorinOS or Linux Mint if a newer Windows is too expensive for you. I'm not 100% sure but only 99,99% but I think that these OS also work on very old hardware, especially Ubuntu does.

Just buy a USB Stick and transfer your stuff on it. There are some really easy to understand tutorials out there that help ya with the how-tos.
Posted June 01, 2019
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Maighstir: GOG only works properly with the latest versions of Chrome and Firefox.
Which is too bad... I enjoyed using FF14 & FF25
Posted June 01, 2019
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HeresMyAccount: I can't upgrade it because I don't think anything newer will work on my OS (Vista). Feel free to throw rotten fruit at me.
I'm all out of rotten fruit, but that really is an insane choice considering how bad Vista was and how not secure it probably is now.
Posted June 01, 2019
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Dray2k: You should use your PC sensibly, which inherently means downloading windows upgrades which makes your computer safer is absolutely paramount. If you choose to use an old and unsupported operating system then you're also at a higher risk of getting problems with your PC.

The chances are very slim, but using a legacy operating systems means that you're far more vulnable in regards to security issues. One of the very small issues are the ones you're encountering right now with gog. Its best to switch on a better operating system like a Linux/Unix based operating system, such as Ubuntu and if thats something you don't like, ZorinOS or Linux Mint if a newer Windows is too expensive for you. I'm not 100% sure but only 99,99% but I think that these OS also work on very old hardware, especially Ubuntu does.

Just buy a USB Stick and transfer your stuff on it. There are some really easy to understand tutorials out there that help ya with the how-tos.
I don't need any tutorials, because I have a master's degree in Computer Science. As I said before, it's not an issue of not knowing how to do it, so much as not wanting to spend the money, and the time and effort.

Frankly, I don't want to switch to Unix/Linux because it's a pain in the ass to use and it's not as compatible with a lot of my stuff as Windows (even though I have an older version of Windows). Aside from the stuff that I get from Gog, I have CDs/DVDs of games which only work on Windows.

And security really isn't an issue, because like I said, the computer that I keep anything on which needs to be secure has no connection to any network, so there's virtually no way that it could get a virus or anything bad like that. And I do keep backups of anything important.

Why does nobody seem to understand any of this?
Post edited June 01, 2019 by HeresMyAccount
Posted June 01, 2019
It's a disease being lovingly catered for by Microsoft and others.

Me, I do the opposite to you .... my older PC is not connected to the web, and is generally better for games too. But then I am not really into Multiplayer.
Posted June 01, 2019
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HeresMyAccount: Why does nobody seem to understand any of this?
My apologies. To be fair I haven't read the entire thread and I was just doing a few general but not wholly unknowledgeabe remarks. But I have read the whole thread and understand where you're coming from now.

Unless you're using some super specific tools that 100% requires ntfs I fail to how you couldn't use something such as a specific version of wine to make it able to run properly. Somebody with your knowledge and skills could probably easily transfer from windows to Linux in less than 6 hours as well.

What I mean is that sometimes a few small sacrifices have to be made in order to get something working properly but you probably understand this as well already for ages already. I only fail to see how convenience even affects this considering I know of people who use distros like Arch like they would use a Windows OS. For someone like you this shouldn't even be a problem at all.
Post edited June 01, 2019 by Dray2k
Posted June 01, 2019
Well as far as I'm concerned, I'm more interested in the software that runs on the OS than the OS itself. To me, the OS is just a means to an end - a way of running the software and doing what needs to be done. Yes, I'm knowledgeable about computers, but I'm not one of these hackers and/or people who prefer to use a specific OS just to use it, or because I even like it's features, for that matter.

I've used Linux and Unix before, and I can do it, but frankly I just prefer Windows because it's what I've been using since the mid '90s and I just don't feel like screwing around with anything else. Also, I'm not sure how good or efficient or reliable or compatible these emulators are, so I'd rather just stick with the real thing, so that I know it will work (or at least it should).

Timboli, I'd rather run my games on my newer computer because then they'll run better, especially the newer games. But that's why I use GoG, so that I can download the games on my old computer, put them on a drive and transfer them to the newer computer, so I can play them on that. And that's another reason that Steam sucks.
Post edited June 01, 2019 by HeresMyAccount
Posted June 02, 2019
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Dray2k: You should use your PC sensibly, which inherently means downloading windows upgrades which makes your computer safer is absolutely paramount. If you choose to use an old and unsupported operating system then you're also at a higher risk of getting problems with your PC.

The chances are very slim, but using a legacy operating systems means that you're far more vulnable in regards to security issues. One of the very small issues are the ones you're encountering right now with gog. Its best to switch on a better operating system like a Linux/Unix based operating system, such as Ubuntu and if thats something you don't like, ZorinOS or Linux Mint if a newer Windows is too expensive for you. I'm not 100% sure but only 99,99% but I think that these OS also work on very old hardware, especially Ubuntu does.

Just buy a USB Stick and transfer your stuff on it. There are some really easy to understand tutorials out there that help ya with the how-tos.
To be fair/paint a complete picture one can also get security exploits/issue with a newer OS as well(until they're patched out/found).

Alsoswith good OPSEC and/'or staying off the net(or sandboxing the net) one can avoid most if not all such problems.

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HeresMyAccount: Why does nobody seem to understand any of this?
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Dray2k: My apologies. To be fair I haven't read the entire thread and I was just doing a few general but not wholly unknowledgeabe remarks. But I have read the whole thread and understand where you're coming from now.

Unless you're using some super specific tools that 100% requires ntfs I fail to how you couldn't use something such as a specific version of wine to make it able to run properly. Somebody with your knowledge and skills could probably easily transfer from windows to Linux in less than 6 hours as well.

What I mean is that sometimes a few small sacrifices have to be made in order to get something working properly but you probably understand this as well already for ages already. I only fail to see how convenience even affects this considering I know of people who use distros like Arch like they would use a Windows OS. For someone like you this shouldn't even be a problem at all.
If someone has a ton of games/etc that only work on windows why switch over and have to learn a bunch of new command lines(to use the OS and also to run/use windows based games/apps) and the like when what one is using works just fine already?

When a person gets a cut we usually say wash it and bandage it, not to cut off the wounded area/limb(in most cases).
Post edited June 02, 2019 by GameRager
Posted June 02, 2019
That's a good point, and keep in mind that not every game on GoG even works on Linux, but I'm pretty sure that EVERY single one is compatible with Windows!
Posted June 03, 2019
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HeresMyAccount: That's a good point, and keep in mind that not every game on GoG even works on Linux, but I'm pretty sure that EVERY single one is compatible with Windows!
True, but can't some win/mac games be run in linux with a few apps/tweaking?
Posted June 03, 2019
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HeresMyAccount: That's a good point, and keep in mind that not every game on GoG even works on Linux, but I'm pretty sure that EVERY single one is compatible with Windows!
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GameRager: True, but can't some win/mac games be run in linux with a few apps/tweaking?
MacOS, no, not yet. The Darling project isn't yet as far as I know complete enough to run graphical applications.
Windows, sure. There's Wine, and several projects based on or using it (Crossover, PlayOnLinux, Lutris, ...)

Wine and related projects are, of course, also used to get Windows applications to run under MacOS.
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GameRager: When a person gets a cut we usually say wash it and bandage it, not to cut off the wounded area/limb(in most cases).
For some reason, it seems I enjoyed getting cut, and eventually I realised I had cut off and replaced every single part of my body with robot parts. Fully open-source ones, off course, and fully functioning.
Post edited June 03, 2019 by Maighstir
Posted June 03, 2019
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GameRager: True, but can't some win/mac games be run in linux with a few apps/tweaking?
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Maighstir: MacOS, no, not yet. The Darling project isn't yet as far as I know complete enough to run graphical applications.
Windows, sure. There's Wine, and several projects based on or using it (Crossover, PlayOnLinux, Lutris, ...)

Wine and related projects are, of course, also used to get Windows applications to run under MacOS.

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GameRager: When a person gets a cut we usually say wash it and bandage it, not to cut off the wounded area/limb(in most cases).
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Maighstir: For some reason, it seems I enjoyed getting cut, and eventually I realised I had cut off and replaced every single part of my body with robot parts. Fully open-source ones, off course, and fully functioning.
Good to hear that there are some methods for linux users to enjoy some windows games/apps/etc. I appreciate the info.

(I might need it to run a mac game in windows if such is possible)
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True, it was good for you, but we don't actively encourage everyone to "replace all their limbs" in such a manner as not everyone is going to be able to handle such as competently as you seem to be doing. We usually suggest simpler methods first(like bandaging the wound....or finding a fix for their OS in this case).
Posted June 03, 2019
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GameRager: (I might need it to run a mac game in windows if such is possible)
"Virtual machines" is the only answer I can give you there. While Apple's license forbids running MacOS on non-Apple hardware, and MacOS has checks to make sure it is running on genuine Apple hardware, there are ways to get around or disable the check and you can always ignore the license.

You'll have to go look up articles, forum posts, and videos around the 'net for more information. "Hackintosh" is a search term that may help, though it most often refers to running on off-the-shelf PC hardware it may still be useful for virtualisation.
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