I also don't want to vote for a wagon that has no chance of getting off the ground. If I started one i'd need to make a convincing argument, which involves showing reasoning/evidence, which involves possibly making lists and a better memory....this is why I often follow the path that's easiest and has the most chance of going through(though not always...I have done some analysis on occasion).

I play to interact and have fun(I have fun even if I lose/get lynched early) with others on the forum, and to roleplay in some games, among other reasons.

As for why I don't do more...it's the same reasoning as above with why I stick to longest wagons often....I am too lazy to write lists and i'd need lists to keep track of everything due to poor memory.

Have a good time in sector 7G, homer. ;)

Humor me. Which wagon would that "doomed" one be?

a) Why not?
b) How do you know it has no chance if you don't vote?

What I was talking about how you think is the feeling I'm getting from you. My start of the day threw everyone off-guard, and I bet the scum no longer had the convenience of using the rush at the end to get a mislynch. I feel that striking the iron while it's hot was something that happened with me, yet I never got past the L-4 threshold. But you do have a point. I feel that as we speak, as the scum took in the gravity of the situation, they realized I'm better as a lightning rod for later days.

As Agent took note, blotunga voted GameRager and then myself two hours later. There's something very blotunga about it. He never gave GameRager a chance to respond to him being pressured and only demoted it to FoS before GR came back to post. I'd like to think this was blotunga being scummy, but the same point that dedo brought up about GR, I will bring up for blotunga: he was a cornerstone for the scumteam's success in "Previously on Mafia..." and he was just a townie who got all the suspicion in the world because of his play style. That's why reading his leanings right now is difficult.

So about where I stand on the matter now:
- I am still sticking with the Lift wagon particularly because it would be a very informative lynch and his overall feeling has me concerned, again from the very beginning where he told me the same thing as RW yet says he was sarcastic with him but real with myself.
- Willing to lynch GR only if he's the viable wagon by the Day's end; while RW's point about GR handing a free vote in scum's favor resonated with me, ultimately I don't think GR is a very informative lynch. Even lynching me would be more informative, if only to confirm I am Town.

I was talking more in general than talking about any particular wagon.

But a few posts that bothered/interested me:

Post 207 where Rwarehall mentions your post(post 206)'s wording was unfortunate when I could easily see what you meant/wasn't confused by it.

Post 97 RFG defended Rwarehall/Pooka/Blotunga as saying their votes were "too obvious"...that piqued my interest a bit.

There may be more but I would have to go back and check again to refresh my memory.
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Part a: I already explained this to lift when he asked similar things.....look at my reply to him(summary: I am bad at defending my reasoning and would likely not be able to gain momentum for any wagon I started, and I don't keep good enough notes to pick someone as easily from past posts they made.).

Part b: Because due to my play style I suck at picking correctly.

The bit I marked makes you lean more town for me, fwiw.

That's not an answer though. Why do you think it won't take off after you throw the first stone?

Also, I'd say about 75% of all votes cast ever are on Town. Not picking correctly is part of the game.

I don't think Lift is scum. However, if he were, then his actions would be just enough to shake town, not enough to give anything definite. Essentially, most of the arguments used so far—at least as I'm remembering them—have been shading. So it would be Lift doing a little shading here, putting town players at odds there, nothing overly suspicious, just enough to shift the game in scum's favor. That's only a hypothesis right now, and I'm not willing to base a Lynch on. It's just something to keep in mind should Lift do something suspicious later. Also, here's the expression I might have been mangling.

Of the wagons present options, Joe is the only one I'd vote for at the deadline. I'm bothered by the 'is-he-crazy-enough' bit though, so I don't want to put a vote on him until then.

I also keep getting this "Agent or Dedo" vibe, but I can't explain why, nor do I have any evidence to back it up.

You won't believe the twist!

You have a point....I should take more chances....maybe I should vote one of the two I listed above(as I haven't jotted down many other notes that stuck out/yes I am taking some notes now btw) in post 215.

But which one? Hmm, maybe I should flip a coin.....

Or maybe I should keep it on lift as he voted for me after I voted him after he(iirc) suggested I cast a vote.....decisions decisions.
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OMG one of my favorite YT cartoon comedy creators....what a twissst indeed.

Now wait while I go see a man about a drug filled chimp.....................

I'm finally at my hotel vote count!

Being Voted ------------------------------------ Voted by
Lift -----------------------------------------------JoeSapphire (Post 106), Pooka (Post 148), GameRager (Post 174)
JoeSapphire------------------------------------ RedFireGaming (Post 16)
GameRager-------------------------------------RWarehall (Post 147) Lift (Post 179),
Pooka--------------------------------------------ZFR (Post 184), blotunga (Post 185)

Closest to lynch is Lift at L-3

Day will end sometime tomorrow evening for me, next 24 hours +/- 2 hours unless a lynch is achieved before then.

"Of the wagons present options, Joe is the only one I'd vote for at the deadline. I'm bothered by the 'is-he-crazy-enough' bit though, so I don't want to put a vote on him until then."

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You voted him in Post 16 and have never unvoted him,

We're close to the deadline so we have to agree rather quick, and as much as I feel that Lift has town vibes, he's closes to lynch. So I wonder, does anyone have better ideas?

Unless you can change people's minds in the next 18 hours(or so) you have to either vote Lift and analyze the wagon or we all let it go into no lynch at the end of the day.

I don't like the no lynch option. And in 18 hours I'll be asleep. So I hope to get some feedback in the next 8-10 hours.