The Greater Good

You were? It looked more like an OMGUS vote to me. Other than him casting shade on you, what makes him the most likely to be the CL? And yes, I see that you switched your vote in the meantime, but I'd still like an answer.


You want some punches to go with the talking and debating?

I don't get this, trentonlf. You're one of those that doesn't do much talking, so if we all followed your lead, you'd base your views and votes on what exactly? Because while you don't do much talking, and criticise others that do, you do benefit from it, as it is their talking that enables you to form your views and cast your votes, more so on D1.


Did you make any waves? Is so, could you point me to where you did?



What do you make of his reply to you in post #171, and his later posts?



How about a warm welcome back? Like a really warm one? How about we lynch you?


Can we hope that said reread may yield more than just a look at Lifthrasil?



Are you claiming CL, flubbucket?



Not sure I follow within the context of your exchanges with trentonlf. Are you saying that you're consciously keeping it dialled back, or that trentonlf is trying too hard? Your post #210 indicates the latter, but I'd like to make sure I understand you correctly.



Can you elaborate?


You think trentonlf has been aggressive? Could you point to one or two posts of his?

The Greater Gооd? It's a bit of both, but mostly the latter. I honestly don't see the point in casting votes that often for every small reason just for the sake of voting. In my eyes this is overdoing it, especially in a game where one knows for a fact that there is exactly one scum player. As Trent stated, the vote should reflect one's suspicion of another, but doing it every now and again kind of takes away of that seriousness.

As I said, I don't really feel like he is the CL, otherwise I would have probably taken that as being too active for show.

Welcome. Really glad you're here!

I should be the lynch on this Day. What if I'm recruited Day Two?? I'll still be a worthless player. My talent will shine come Day Three and by then I will possibly be cult and will be entrenched and focused on killing/recruiting all of you.

Save yourselves and deal with me now!

I like it.

You are smart.

You can make us go.

Yes....it's a nasty word.

I made a frickin' chart. Did you not see the chart?!?!?


Vote and learn

Actually, that is a good observation - and amazingly useful, coming from you. You typically start to contribute later in the game - but in this case, 'later' has a good chance of meaning 'for the wrong side'. But - this is WIFOM of course - I have the feeling that you are town at the moment. You as the CL would probably not make such a convincing argument for lynching yourself and I really would like to have a chance of lynching the CL today. So let's lynch you tomorrow, OK?

@all: I'm afk for the rest of the day. See you some time tomorrow.

Okay.

Don't say I didn't warn ya....

But he would make a convincing argument for being lynched as Town? Since when townies are trying to get themselves lynched because they are useless? Does that even make sense? If this was some new player who started their first game and after a few days decided they don't have it in them that argument would make some sense, but it's quite the opposite. If this was a joke it totally flew by me but if it wasn't I'm a bit baffled by the underlying logic.

Of course.

Soooo, Bookwyrm627's play makes sense to you only as coming from a cult mindset, yet flubbucket's play rings townie to you? What is it that sets them apart?

Been a busy weekend and it is not slowing down anytime soon today so I can't guarantee I'll be back on today.

@Hyper, What I mean by causing waves is I think dedo is being too townie. He is not really pushing anyone, just politely disagreeing with someone without pursuing it further. I've also never been a person who plays with putting out a lot of analysis and I don't see that changing anytime soon. I prefer to put my vote out there on who I think is the best chance at being scum (and on occasion I do it just to get a reaction from someone) with my reasons as to why and going from there. If all we do is sit around and talk and never act what will that accomplish?

@dedo, in response to your comment on me moving my vote around and for anyone else who thinks it's a poor play:

I put my vote on bookwrym because his play felt scummy to me and felt it deserved my vote, but after thinking on it over night I felt I could somewhat see why he was doing what he was and removed my vote to give him the benefit of the doubt. I then proceeded to vote Sage later because I felt she was just floating along and trying to hide in plain sight. Then right after I did place the vote on Sage for the second time Lift tried to cast shade on me with his over eager comment in reference to me and I felt he was more deserving of my vote (the first time was when I voted bookwyrm). Then after dedo response to me wanting people to actually vote so we could see where we were at felt like him trying to give a reason to wait until the last minute to do a rushed lynch like we always do (post 179 and post 192) and that only benefits scum so I put my vote on him and it will probably stay there.

Well, that's a first...

OK, up until Sage things made good enough sense, but you said that you cast each and every vote with the presumption that you are on the right track. Yet, you seem to get change of heart a bit too easy. I don't mind urging others to vote, since ultimately that's what we need to do to win the game, but I simply wanted to find the reason to hasten that. I agree that it's better to not leave the lynch for the final minutes of the day but I don't think rushing the vote is that much better. Unless you are trying to force a claim by placing someone at L-1/2 there are different conversations to be had between players, on different topics. If you think that one can gauge reactions only by voting them I'd say you are limiting yourself as there are other options, as well.

On the other item, can you point me out to where I suggest to leave the vote for the deadline? Or, if it wasn't a direct suggestion, but it read that way also works. The only thing I was trying to figure out was the goal of your play - if you wanted to achieve an earlier forced claim and so we have time to work it out or something else. Also, as I said a bit earlier, changing votes too often tends to look like the actor is looking for something to stick and continue from there while hiding behind the facade of being an active Town player who is using the vote to the fullest. Even though I don't think you are the CL and I find it interesting that you seemed to get more suspicious of me only after I started asking you questions about your goal (weirdly, that didn't count as making waves).

How is that re-read going?

uhm bad. (non-mafia) voting and working and reading twitter and sleeping and trying to get python to scrape me all of the posts of the thread to make it "easier" for me to re-read them, left me no time to do any actual re-reading. ;/
but I'm onto that, now-ish. definitly, want to cast my vote before it's deadline time (and I'll probably be at work).

Sorry to interrupt the game, but you do know that is literally the reason I made my script... no point in reinventing the wheel when a solution already exists ;)

Drop me a message if you're not sure how the search functions work and I'll point out all the mafia relevant features :)

Tina! Back to work! You can flirt on your own time (and with a man of God, to boot)! Don't you have knives to sharpen or something?!

(but, yeah, mchack, adaliabooks is probably the guy to talk to about what you want to do. :))

hehe, yes, it actually isn't working for me right now, but my firefox seems to be buggy with checkboxes not being actively switchable, I think it's something to do with the noscript plugin even though scripts are allowed for gog.com, so please don't worry about it, I'm sure it's just a problem on my end. As for reinventing the wheel, well there's one point in that: trying to learn how to build wheels :)
I'm having fun and getting the first results. pic related (now I just need to find out how to handle quotes...)

Anyway. Last post about this, sorry for the off-topics. I'll start the (old-school non python fueled) re-read exactly now.